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Impossible Foods says it is close to finishing a large-scale production facility

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Re: Impossible Foods says it is close to finishing a large-scale production facility

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Post by linkregister »

saycheese wrote: post #38
linkregister wrote: post #23

https://www.impossiblefoods.com/faq/ Nutrition Facts Serving Size (85g) Servings Per Container about 85 ------------- Amount Per Serving Calories 220 Calories from Fat 120 Calories from Saturated Fat 100 ------------- % Daily Value* Total Fat 13g 20% Saturated Fat 11g 55% Trans Fat 0g Cholesterol 0mg 0% Sodium 380mg 16% Potassium 250mg 7% Total Carbohydrate 6g 2% Dietary Fiber

This is easier to read on mobile: https://www.impossiblefoods.com/images/faq/nutrition-facts.p... EDIT: Here's a link to the FDA comment I deleted, but is reference in the comment below: https://www.fda.gov/downloads/Food/IngredientsPackagingLabel...

Your deleted comment from the FDA filing was interesting. I also couldn't make much of it due to unfamiliarity with the terminology.

My favorite part was the "this is submitted on a certified Virus-free CD".

Original comment:

> Not sure what to make of this doc: https://www.fda.gov/downloads/Food/IngredientsPackagingLabel...

Re: Impossible Foods says it is close to finishing a large-scale production facility

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Post by tunocina »

pault wrote: post #16
pier25 wrote: post #12

> wheat, coconut oil, potatoes, and heme Replacing meat for carbs is not a great idea. Edit: I was wrong. 200cal only have 6g of carbs which is pretty good IMO.

What if animal fats are too heavy for your personal digestive system and you aren't obsessed with your BMI?

You can't "be obsessed with your BMI". If something makes you fatter, you should not eat it.

Re: Impossible Foods says it is close to finishing a large-scale production facility

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Post by tetrep »

linkregister wrote: post #37
LeanderK wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For special requirements (allergies, diets) reengineering the patty would be way easier than reengineering a cow, i would expect. This is their first product.

Allergies, yes. Zero carbs, probably impossible. That's okay though. No product can satisfy everyone!

With ~5g of carbs per 200 calories, you would have to eat these things pretty much exclusively to break keto, the only diet I'm aware of with an actual need for virtually no carbs.

Re: Impossible Foods says it is close to finishing a large-scale production facility

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Post by LeanderK »

snarf21 wrote: post #40
LeanderK wrote: post #22

This is something i am really (REALLY!) excited about. I am a Vegetarian because of the environmental impact, but the desire for the taste is still there (been a few years). All the substitutes i have tried (until now) were bad and left me disappointed and i still have to fight the urge to order a good old schnitzel at a restaurant. EDIT: if somebody asks why i am being so strict...i will stop being strict when we st…

Not judging your choice to be vegetarian, but do you think we could actually grow/extract enough coconut oil to manufacture this at anything approaching a global scale? There has already been a run on coconuts due to crazy demand for coconut water. [ http://time.com/4488043/a-major-coconut-shortage-with-global... ]

i don't see this as a solution, but rather as a step. Coconut oil might not be the perfect ingredient to supply a global scale (there might not be one), but it's, or better will be, the first mass-produced alternative that's available to the common man.

Re: Impossible Foods says it is close to finishing a large-scale production facility

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Post by scythe »

acchow wrote: post #17
Taek wrote: post #13

Does anyone know how the nutritional content compares? For me, the fact that I can cook a 300g burger that, after trimmings, is 1000+ calories is a big deal. Also the massive amounts of fat and protein, and the low carb profile. All these things make burgers a great meal choice for me (taste matters too obviously). If these fake burgers are cheaper, have similar macros and calorie density, and are better for the envi…

Why is density important. Is cooking a 500g veggie burger that much more effort? (Its not, especially since you don't need it to be properly cooked)

Can you eat a 500g burger? I can't. In fact I wouldn't even want to eat a 300g burger unless I was very hungry. That's 10.5 oz. 500g is 18 oz.

Re: Impossible Foods says it is close to finishing a large-scale production facility

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Post by pier25 »

pault wrote: post #16
pier25 wrote: post #12

> wheat, coconut oil, potatoes, and heme Replacing meat for carbs is not a great idea. Edit: I was wrong. 200cal only have 6g of carbs which is pretty good IMO.

What if animal fats are too heavy for your personal digestive system and you aren't obsessed with your BMI?

> What if animal fats are too heavy for your personal digestive system

You could get vegetable fats from avocados, olive oil, etc. Fats are essential to life.

> and you aren't obsessed with your BMI?

It's a myth that eating fats will increase your BMI. It's eating too many calories that causes that.

Re: Impossible Foods says it is close to finishing a large-scale production facility

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Post by saycheese »

linkregister wrote: post #41
saycheese wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is easier to read on mobile: https://www.impossiblefoods.com/images/faq/nutrition-facts.p... EDIT: Here's a link to the FDA comment I deleted, but is reference in the comment below: https://www.fda.gov/downloads/Food/IngredientsPackagingLabel...

Your deleted comment from the FDA filing was interesting. I also couldn't make much of it due to unfamiliarity with the terminology. My favorite part was the "this is submitted on a certified Virus-free CD". Original comment: > Not sure what to make of this doc: https://www.fda.gov/downloads/Food/IngredientsPackagingLabel...

Of note in that filing is that Impossible Foods later requested that the FDA not review that PDF linked to above and the FDA agreed to stop reviewing it:

https://www.fda.gov/Food/IngredientsPackagingLabeling/GRAS/N...

Re: Impossible Foods says it is close to finishing a large-scale production facility

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Post by Retric »

entee wrote: post #20
WalterSear wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

http://www.sciencealert.com/lab-grown-burger-patty-cost-drop...

Yup, the relevant part of that article: "Post and his team are now working on replacing the serum [fetal calf serum] with something that doesn’t rely on animal products, and told the ABC that while they’re making great process, it’ll be at least a couple of decades before they can scale the technique up and make it commercially viable." If you're using fetal calf serum (FCS), you're definitely not particularly vegeta…

McDonalds is selling 1/10th not 1/4 lb burgers for 1$. So that's 2.5$ vs 11$. Also, ground beef is fairly cheap ~4$/lb, bacon is $6 per pound and Filet Mignon is 23$/lb. Still, even if they only sell it as flavor enhancer to the ethical vegetarian market that's still enough to scale and presumably drop the price over time.

Re: Impossible Foods says it is close to finishing a large-scale production facility

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Post by twic »

glibgil wrote: post #14

I tried it. It tastes good because of the heme, but it tastes wheaty otherwise. I think most people would like it, but not going for gluten-free recipe seems shortsighted

Where do they get the haem? Yeast or something?

Re: Impossible Foods says it is close to finishing a large-scale production facility

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Post by LeanderK »

subpixel wrote: post #36
LeanderK wrote: post #22

This is something i am really (REALLY!) excited about. I am a Vegetarian because of the environmental impact, but the desire for the taste is still there (been a few years). All the substitutes i have tried (until now) were bad and left me disappointed and i still have to fight the urge to order a good old schnitzel at a restaurant. EDIT: if somebody asks why i am being so strict...i will stop being strict when we st…

I've scaled back my meat consumption radically in the last six years or so and in my experience, taste is just a factor of habit. Change your habits and you can change what you perceive to be delicious. Anecdotally, eating meat infrequently has resulted in me finding chicken and turkey generally flavorless and gross when I'm in a position where I must eat them. And while the smell of a burger cooking somewhere is sti…

i think if you want to change your eating behaviour, you also have to change your habits. It just doesn't work otherwise. But you can't change all habits. There is a pub with cheap burgers and cheap bear near my university and not going there isn't really an option. Of course that means the smell is there and my friends are eating unhealthy, juicy burgers, but on the other side i enjoy drinking beer and talking to friends.
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