I find it odd that QUIC is enabled by default when it apparently has poor fallback capabilities to "non-QUIC" mode.
Chrome/macOS users in The Netherlands cannot visit google.com or google.nl
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Re: Chrome/macOS users in The Netherlands cannot visit google.com or google.nl
#42same here in Germany on windows this morning.. also had to disable QUIC. Funnily I switched to Microsoft Edge for a short while, but have once again realized why its unusable. After about 1-2 minutes using it, the entire browser became unresponsive for about 60 seconds. Afterwards I couldnt press sign-in on YouTube because an invisible IFrame from the OneNote Web Clipper Extension was overlaying it. Nobody seems to b…
Re: Chrome/macOS users in The Netherlands cannot visit google.com or google.nl
#43Direct fiber connection to Level 3 (Columbus, Ohio) here at work. Had to disable QUIC as I am getting the same errors as well when trying to access Google. Using local DNS, not sure what upstream DNS we are using though.
Re: Chrome/macOS users in The Netherlands cannot visit google.com or google.nl
#44Is this the reason googleapis is having trouble? Maps and fonts are really slow for me today.
Re: Chrome/macOS users in The Netherlands cannot visit google.com or google.nl
#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
So.. Dutch ISPs - or someone else along the route - interfering with UDP traffic?
I suspect they are throttling UDP traffic on "non-web" ports, traffic might look like torrent encrypted stream :). Anyway you can test whats going on with https://github.com/lucas-clemente/quic-go
Re: Chrome/macOS users in The Netherlands cannot visit google.com or google.nl
#46The title is misleading, Google has not broken anything, Dutch providers have. I hope Google will do nothing, and the providers will be pressured into fixing their shitty hardware.
I work a Belgian hosting provider, directly uplinked to our datacenter via Cogent/TINET. The same happened here. There's no hardware cause, it appears to be a minor chrome update combined with a QUIC server-side update (unconfirmed) that caused issues. As soon as Chrome auto-updates to the next minor release, things appear better (but not fully fixed). It's entirely in the browser Google server-side, ISPs have nothin…
Re: Chrome/macOS users in The Netherlands cannot visit google.com or google.nl
#47The title is misleading, Google has not broken anything, Dutch providers have. I hope Google will do nothing, and the providers will be pressured into fixing their shitty hardware.
Can you provide a source? If this is the case that's quite a serious fault, but it seems unlikely that multiple independent providers would simultaneously do this.
Re: Chrome/macOS users in The Netherlands cannot visit google.com or google.nl
#48I'm going to hijack this thread to describe something weird that's happened to me yesterday w/ Google: just connected on my usual BT (UK) wifi, and when I opened google.com, Safari complained about an invalid SSL certificate: it was self-signed, with expiration in 2111. After a dozen refreshes, everything started to work, with the correct certificate. Anybody seen anything like that? Is it possible that a corrupted p…
Re: Chrome/macOS users in The Netherlands cannot visit google.com or google.nl
#49I'm going to hijack this thread to describe something weird that's happened to me yesterday w/ Google: just connected on my usual BT (UK) wifi, and when I opened google.com, Safari complained about an invalid SSL certificate: it was self-signed, with expiration in 2111. After a dozen refreshes, everything started to work, with the correct certificate. Anybody seen anything like that? Is it possible that a corrupted p…
You should post the certificate details here. Issuer, fingerprint, etc.
Re: Chrome/macOS users in The Netherlands cannot visit google.com or google.nl
#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
I suspect they are throttling UDP traffic on "non-web" ports, traffic might look like torrent encrypted stream :). Anyway you can test whats going on with https://github.com/lucas-clemente/quic-go
This is probably not the case, as traffic shaping is illegal in The Netherlands.