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Emirates Says Bookings to the U.S. Fell by 35% After the First Travel Ban

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Re: Emirates Says Bookings to the U.S. Fell by 35% After the First Travel Ban

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Post by Mikeb85 »

__derek__ wrote: post #39
Mikeb85 wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pretty sure that's a terrible idea. Like the law or not, that's who your nation voted for, and the government has the power to make life very difficult for corporations. Also, let's be real here. The travel ban doesn't affect these SV companies. How many employees are going to be coming from Syria, Iran or Yemen?. Are the positive optics worth the difficulties? The public is already weary of corporations becoming too…

> the government has the power to make life very difficult for corporations If we're at the point where companies need to fear arbitrary punishment by the government for partisan reasons, the rule of law is dead. I'm not ready to concede that point. > Also, let's be real here. The travel ban doesn't affect these SV companies. How many employees are going to be coming from Syria, Iran or Yemen?. Are the positive optic…

> If we're at the point where companies need to fear arbitrary punishment by the government for partisan reasons, the rule of law is dead. I'm not ready to concede that point.

Trump has already stated his desire to apply tariffs to companies that operate outside the US, assuming he follows through, moving employees outside the US for spite is a losing proposition.

> You may be interested to learn that a slew of companies signed an amicus brief in Washington v. Trump[1], including:

Look up the definition of "amicus curaie".

Anyhow, legal avenues are fair game. But actively hurting the American economy to prove a point will only turn public perception against them. Americans (heck, even those on HN) are already weary of how much power companies like Google, Facebook, Microsoft, Apple, Uber, etc... have over them...

Re: Emirates Says Bookings to the U.S. Fell by 35% After the First Travel Ban

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Post by __derek__ »

Mikeb85 wrote: post #41
__derek__ wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> the government has the power to make life very difficult for corporations If we're at the point where companies need to fear arbitrary punishment by the government for partisan reasons, the rule of law is dead. I'm not ready to concede that point. > Also, let's be real here. The travel ban doesn't affect these SV companies. How many employees are going to be coming from Syria, Iran or Yemen?. Are the positive optic…

> If we're at the point where companies need to fear arbitrary punishment by the government for partisan reasons, the rule of law is dead. I'm not ready to concede that point. Trump has already stated his desire to apply tariffs to companies that operate outside the US, assuming he follows through, moving employees outside the US for spite is a losing proposition. > You may be interested to learn that a slew of compa…

> Trump has already stated his desire to apply tariffs to companies that operate outside the US, assuming he follows through

And he'll need lots of luck getting both Republican-controlled bodies of Congress to pass those tariffs.

> moving employees outside the US for spite is a losing proposition

It doesn't have to be spite. Doing so out of practicality (see, e.g., companies' increasing their presence in Vancouver) is a more effective statement, anyway.

> Look up the definition of "amicus curaie".

Is there anything in particular you want me to learn?

Re: Emirates Says Bookings to the U.S. Fell by 35% After the First Travel Ban

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Post by guitarbill »

nl wrote: post #37
Mikeb85 wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pretty sure that's a terrible idea. Like the law or not, that's who your nation voted for, and the government has the power to make life very difficult for corporations. Also, let's be real here. The travel ban doesn't affect these SV companies. How many employees are going to be coming from Syria, Iran or Yemen?. Are the positive optics worth the difficulties? The public is already weary of corporations becoming too…

Iran produces more engineering graduates than any country other than China, Russia and the US (can't find the China reference but this is similar: http://interestingengineering.com/top-10-countries-with-the-... . The article I read was about electronic engineering though). Interestingly, 70% of Iranian engineering grads are female https://www.forbes.com/sites/amyguttman/2015/12/09/set-to-ta...

> Interestingly, 70% of Iranian engineering grads are female

Although my experience is with other Gulf states (not Iran but considered relatively progressive), the cause for that might be less noble than some think. Basically while the sons are allowed to study abroad, the daughters are most definitely not. This leads to the national universities having female majorities in pretty much all subjects.

In any case, it would be foolhardy to construe that number as equality (unless e.g. Iran has a huge surplus of women). But it is interesting.

Re: Emirates Says Bookings to the U.S. Fell by 35% After the First Travel Ban

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Post by exclusiv »

DanAndersen wrote: post #19
refurb wrote: post #13

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and have never had any extra scrutiny at security, except for one "random" screening on my boarding pass that involved some TSA swab check. Interesting. I'm a white guy and I've gone through secondary screening (swabs, detailed questions, etc) probably half a dozen times over the past 2-3 years. And I have a US passport!

White American here. In the past 3-4 years (probably a couple dozen flights) I have gotten some level of patdowns and hand-swabs literally every single time I go through one of those millimeter-wave machines. Every time, without fail. My belief is that it's because I had gone through some pretty substantial weight loss in the past, and so my body skin/muscle/fat density is all screwy around the midsection, and thus i…

My white buddy got stopped and frisked traveling around Europe with me every time. He has a legit beard. They even asked if they could put their hands inside his pants (inside the waist band). Beards are suspect these days no matter what your background.

Re: Emirates Says Bookings to the U.S. Fell by 35% After the First Travel Ban

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Post by zem »

refurb wrote: post #13
vinay427 wrote: post #6

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Decidedly anecdotal: Not the OP but I am brown like Indian with a non-Muslim name and have never had any extra scrutiny at security, except for one "random" screening on my boarding pass that involved some TSA swab check. I am a citizen, but I haven't heard of any non-citizen family friends or relatives that have expressed anything out of the ordinary.

and have never had any extra scrutiny at security, except for one "random" screening on my boarding pass that involved some TSA swab check. Interesting. I'm a white guy and I've gone through secondary screening (swabs, detailed questions, etc) probably half a dozen times over the past 2-3 years. And I have a US passport!

perhaps they profiled too many brown people and had to make their numbers look 'random' again (:

Re: Emirates Says Bookings to the U.S. Fell by 35% After the First Travel Ban

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Post by vanjoe »

sandworm101 wrote: post #36

Know who really cares? Not Emirates or airlines. Talk to Disneyworld. Talk to real estate agents who are seeing middle east buyers heading to Vancouver and London rather than New York. Emirates delivers the people but the real loss is to those doing business with those people once they land.

Is Vancouver really in the class of london and new York? (I've lived my whole life in a Vancouver suburb, and I'm curious how the world views us)

Re: Emirates Says Bookings to the U.S. Fell by 35% After the First Travel Ban

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Post by [deleted] »

sandworm101 wrote: post #36

Know who really cares? Not Emirates or airlines. Talk to Disneyworld. Talk to real estate agents who are seeing middle east buyers heading to Vancouver and London rather than New York. Emirates delivers the people but the real loss is to those doing business with those people once they land.

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Re: Emirates Says Bookings to the U.S. Fell by 35% After the First Travel Ban

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Post by sandworm101 »

vanjoe wrote: post #46
sandworm101 wrote: post #36

Know who really cares? Not Emirates or airlines. Talk to Disneyworld. Talk to real estate agents who are seeing middle east buyers heading to Vancouver and London rather than New York. Emirates delivers the people but the real loss is to those doing business with those people once they land.

Is Vancouver really in the class of london and new York? (I've lived my whole life in a Vancouver suburb, and I'm curious how the world views us)

It depends. The city isn't great for locals, but the overseas investor sees different things. They look for stability and ease of entry. A good airport, reasonable immigration and stable house prices. Even the local efforts to stabilize prices through the new taxes are seen as safe in that they reduce the chance of a bubble burst. If you are looking for a place to park money in real estate, Vancouver is on the short list. If you are a local looking for work or wanting to start a business, that is a totally different story.

Re: Emirates Says Bookings to the U.S. Fell by 35% After the First Travel Ban

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Post by rhblake »

Semaphor wrote: post #31
reacharavindh wrote: post #29

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Haven't gotten into Denmark yet. My girlfriend is Austrian and we're moving there together. AFAIK, I get a residence and work permit as we're moving together and that she is a EU national who would be working as a Asst.Professor there.

That sounds weird. It's pretty easy to get those if you want to marry, but her being your girlfriend shouldn't help outside of the formal letter of invitation.

One doesn't need to be married in order to be covered by the EU rights in question. Straight from the source:

"The following family members of an EU/EEA citizen or Swiss citizen, who is exercising his/her right to free movement in Denmark, or of a Danish citizen who is exercising or who has exercised his/her right to free movement in another EU/EEA country or Switzerland, has the right to have a visa application processed in accordance with EU regulations:

* spouse

* cohabiting partner aged 18 or over * ..."

See https://www.nyidanmark.dk/en-us/coming_to_dk/visa/visas-unde....

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