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Hydrogen – An advanced drum machine for Linux

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Re: Hydrogen – An advanced drum machine for Linux

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diminish wrote: post #40
donquichotte wrote: post #10

I have tried Hydrogen some time ago when I tried to build a linux audio workstation with Jack and Ardour. As much as it pains me to say this, don't expect it to be even remotely as good as commercial software drum machines like EZDrummer, Superior Drummer or Studio Drummer in terms of sample quality or usability. Generally, I found it prohibitively complicated to set up a well-working low-latency audio workstation, e…

>> ..only reason I have Windows installed on my private computer When you say Reaper, you lose me. I have used it for a long time and it's really the most basic of all the DAW alternatives.

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Re: Hydrogen – An advanced drum machine for Linux

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Post by tjr225 »

baldfat wrote: post #39
flavor8 wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you have to jump through Jack shenanigans to get it working? Or does it just work, nicely?

I don't care what OS your on. When you start talking about latency it is all a nightmare. If latency isn't an issue then Pulse Audio works totally fine. I actually like Jack when it is concerning latency and think it is a good system. BUT it is a pain. I used 2 separate sound cards. One is a Pro level I/O breakout box that Jack controls and the on board sound card is controlled by PulseAudio.

I have no issues with latency on MacOS with absolutely zero configuration. It's one of the reasons I won't switch from MacOS to linux.

Re: Hydrogen – An advanced drum machine for Linux

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baldfat wrote: post #39
flavor8 wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you have to jump through Jack shenanigans to get it working? Or does it just work, nicely?

I don't care what OS your on. When you start talking about latency it is all a nightmare. If latency isn't an issue then Pulse Audio works totally fine. I actually like Jack when it is concerning latency and think it is a good system. BUT it is a pain. I used 2 separate sound cards. One is a Pro level I/O breakout box that Jack controls and the on board sound card is controlled by PulseAudio.

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Re: Hydrogen – An advanced drum machine for Linux

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Post by cdawzrd »

diminish wrote: post #40
donquichotte wrote: post #10

I have tried Hydrogen some time ago when I tried to build a linux audio workstation with Jack and Ardour. As much as it pains me to say this, don't expect it to be even remotely as good as commercial software drum machines like EZDrummer, Superior Drummer or Studio Drummer in terms of sample quality or usability. Generally, I found it prohibitively complicated to set up a well-working low-latency audio workstation, e…

>> ..only reason I have Windows installed on my private computer When you say Reaper, you lose me. I have used it for a long time and it's really the most basic of all the DAW alternatives.

Having used both REAPER and Pro Tools professionally, my opinion is that REAPER is not basic at all -- it has every feature I have needed in a DAW, it's easy to use (for me, at least) and performs better than Pro Tools, at a far lower cost. It is one of my favorite pieces of commercial software.

Re: Hydrogen – An advanced drum machine for Linux

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Post by zhengyi13 »

stevehiehn wrote: post #38

Does anyone know if it Hydrogen can be controlled via api/commandline? I would like to try generating patterns with machine learning.

It's not precisely your desire/use-case, but that sounds vaguely like you might like some of the programmatic sound generation systems out there:

Overtone - http://overtone.github.io/ Tidal - https://tidalcycles.org/

Perhaps those might be hooked into something you're already building?

Re: Hydrogen – An advanced drum machine for Linux

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Post by lmm »

betaby wrote: post #16
digi_owl wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Define "removing". Pulseaudio is a hard beast to put down.

apt remove pulseaudio pulseaudio-utils then reboot, not really that hard.

That's fine until you install anything, then it gets pulled back in.

Re: Hydrogen – An advanced drum machine for Linux

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Post by blockoperation »

unicornporn wrote: post #29

For full av more fully featured Linux sequencer I'd recommend Renoise. It's a tracker (and is not floss), but is super impressive.

Renoise is great, especially for breakbeat/jungle drum programming. Just load up your break of choice, put in some slice markers (or play it with offset commands like on old trackers), and you're set.

I do find the pattern-based workflow a bit of a productivity killer though (I usually get stuck on perfecting the same 8/16 bar loop).

Re: Hydrogen – An advanced drum machine for Linux

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Post by badosu »

yellowapple wrote: post #37
dyeje wrote: post #7

I've checked out Hydrogen a few times, but have been turned off by clunkiness in the UI each time. I'd rather use an web based one for quick one offs or just boot up my DAW for something more in depth. That said, it's a nice little tool if you're not willing to shell out for a DAW.

The typical workflow for Hydrogen is to turn a whole desktop session into your DAW, building it from the ground up with your own selection of tools. I've dreamed of doing something like that for awhile, but at the end of the day it's almost always easier to just reach for a self-contained DAW.

That's the idea of Non: http://non.tuxfamily.org/wiki/index.php?page=Non%20DAW

Separating each part of the composition process with specific applications.

Re: Hydrogen – An advanced drum machine for Linux

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Post by jameskegel »

trickell wrote: post #11

Check out LMMS (Let's Make Music). It's like Ableton for Linux and already has VST's like Hydrogen, etc. built into the software itself: https://lmms.io/

It's actually like FL Studio for Linux as it is pretty much a carbon copy. If you want to draw a direct comparison of "Ableton for Linux" then the logical choice is Bitwig, which is quite frankly "Ableton for Linux" since all of the original Ableton developers left to start Bitwig and the interface is a 100% copy of the original.

Re: Hydrogen – An advanced drum machine for Linux

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Post by Pxtl »

donquichotte wrote: post #10

I have tried Hydrogen some time ago when I tried to build a linux audio workstation with Jack and Ardour. As much as it pains me to say this, don't expect it to be even remotely as good as commercial software drum machines like EZDrummer, Superior Drummer or Studio Drummer in terms of sample quality or usability. Generally, I found it prohibitively complicated to set up a well-working low-latency audio workstation, e…

After hearing some oldschool electronica my 9-year old asked me about drum machines. Is there a good kid-friendly one you can recommend for win or android?
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