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Yahoo hack warning: What happened and should you be worried?

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Re: Yahoo hack warning: What happened and should you be worried?

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Jeez, how do they still have a positive net worth? Like seriously, obviously their users & user data is worthless, they don't care about it getting stolen, nor do they seem serious about fixing their dilapidated, insecure systems. This is just a case of poor management, if Google, Facebook, Twitter and others can figure out how to secure their sites, Yahoo can.

> If Google, Facebook, Twitter and others can figure out how to secure their sites, Yahoo can. The other article linked in this thread[1] attributes this attack to a "state-sponsored actor", which is interesting considering that Google was hacked by such an actor [2], but I'm not sure they ever acknowledged it. I doubt anyone can say for sure that Facebook and/or Twitter haven't been hacked in such a way. If anything…

Schneier reports that it wasn't a state-sponsored actor, but a criminal group called Group E. He says "state-sponsored actor" is often code for "please don't blame us for our shoddy security because it was a really sophisticated attacker and we can't be expected to defend ourselves against that." [1]

Google is definitely more secure and more proactive at security than Yahoo. You can look through their security whitepaper: they take a systematic approach and they meet and exceed the state of the art.[2] In contrast, Yahoo was hashing passwords with MD5. Here's Ptacek saying "there is no redeeming quality to justify using MD5", in 2007.[3] Yahoo doesn't really have any excuse.

[1] https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2016/09/the_hacking_o...

[2] https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5Y-fwYJF2hLOTVmMzQ1MjAtMDF...

[3] https://web.archive.org/web/http://www.matasano.com/log/958/...

(I'm not affiliated with any of these companies.)

Re: Yahoo hack warning: What happened and should you be worried?

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And Yahoo the company we are discussing has a full time CISO, now at Facebook: http://www.businessinsider.com/alex-stamos-leaves-yahoo-to-b... As does Google: http://www.csoonline.com/article/2928798/security-leadership... As does Twitter: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mcoates as does Uber: https://newsroom.uber.com/joe-sullivan-joining-uber-as-first... As does Apple: http://www.reuters.com/article/apple-encryption-exe…

Lol, that is like 1% of the industry. For every facebook there are 100s of smaller shops with websites taking money and handling pii. Being not-facebook doesnt mean you arent in the big leagues with millions of customers.

And that 1% of the industry is exactly the context for these comments, the company being discussed here is Yahoo. I guess you didn't read the part where I specified "SV tech giants"?

Re: Yahoo hack warning: What happened and should you be worried?

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I'd recommend deleting all content associated with the account and removing the address from any third party site (recovery etc). I would however never actually delete the account. My concern with deleting the account is that it exposes you to some really nasty impersonation attacks. It is free to keep. Just keep it.

I don't know about Yahoo, but most services will not allow to reregister a previously deleted account.

I vaguely recall that yahoo does recycle old email addresses.

Re: Yahoo hack warning: What happened and should you be worried?

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