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Re: Dutch House of Representatives passes dragnet surveillance bill

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Post by aerique »

De_Delph wrote: post #17
arianvanp wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also https://www.privacystemwijzer.nl/ to figure out if your views about privacy align with the views of the parties. Stay informed people!

Vote Piratenpartij if you're serious about privacy/security. For other parties it's just a 'side issue'.

This is incorrect as you can see from f.e. the Privacy Barometer[1]. The PvdD (Party for the Animals, how unfortunate their name may be) has always been very pro-privacy & civilian rights and if you'd read their party statements you'd know it is not "just a side issue" for that party.

Of the parties that can be checked because they've had a seat in the government it is one of the best parties to vote on if privacy, surveillance etc. are important for you. It remains to be seen if the Pirate Party will do better if it ever ends up with seats in the government.

[1] https://www.privacybarometer.nl/pagina/50/Actuele_stand_van_...

Re: Dutch House of Representatives passes dragnet surveillance bill

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Post by arianvanp »

cryptarch wrote: post #31
lucb1e wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> privacy and internet freedom: goo.gl Is a little ironic.

I agree, so I reuploaded it on riseup: blob: https://share.riseup.net/43c16173-b82e-4914-8608-4d74a331754... Sorry for violating your copyright! Feel free to DMCA.

As you can see, it is Kopimi http://www.kopimi.com/ :)

Re: Dutch House of Representatives passes dragnet surveillance bill

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Post by mysticmarvel »

mattlondon wrote: post #30

Time to start investing in dutch VPN providers? Boom in sales in 3,2,1... ?

More like time to ditch the Dutch endpoints. See how PIA reacted to similar legislation in the UK: https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/2016/12/private-i...

Pretty soon we'll need endpoints on the ISS.

Re: Dutch House of Representatives passes dragnet surveillance bill

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Post by mvdwoord »

Ruud-v-A wrote: post #2

For the Dutch people here considering what to vote in the March elections, I made an overview of statements of the parties on privacy and internet freedom: https://goo.gl/roiqVJ

Out of curiosity, has anybody ever made a tool which compares past voting behaviour in stead of comparisons with political parties campaign programs? I found some minor discrepancies between campaign programs and actual voting behaviour in the past.. ;)

Re: Dutch House of Representatives passes dragnet surveillance bill

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Post by marksomnian »

mvdwoord wrote: post #44
Ruud-v-A wrote: post #2

For the Dutch people here considering what to vote in the March elections, I made an overview of statements of the parties on privacy and internet freedom: https://goo.gl/roiqVJ

Out of curiosity, has anybody ever made a tool which compares past voting behaviour in stead of comparisons with political parties campaign programs? I found some minor discrepancies between campaign programs and actual voting behaviour in the past.. ;)

If you're in the UK, I think you have TheyWorkForYou. Not sure about Netherlands though

Re: Dutch House of Representatives passes dragnet surveillance bill

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Post by akvadrako »

lucb1e wrote: post #38
akvadrako wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't just look at the name. The PvdD also has a lot of good policies in terms of privacy and other social issues. But maybe it would be nice to be able to elect different parties in different areas of policy, like the water board.

> Don't just look at the name. The PvdD also has a lot of good policies in terms of privacy and other social issues. Indeed, they do! That's why it's such a shame they're called PvdD because I don't have any particular affiliation with animals. I'm fine with them being treated well, but if that is so leading that they had to name their party like that, I am not sure it's a party I should vote for.

I think the name does a good job of presenting them as a party of compassion and recognising that we are also animals. Denying that part of our nature by pretending humans are especially rational is one leading cause of unworkable policies.

Re: Dutch House of Representatives passes dragnet surveillance bill

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Post by gjjrfcbugxbhf »

mysticmarvel wrote: post #43
mattlondon wrote: post #30

Time to start investing in dutch VPN providers? Boom in sales in 3,2,1... ?

More like time to ditch the Dutch endpoints. See how PIA reacted to similar legislation in the UK: https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/2016/12/private-i... Pretty soon we'll need endpoints on the ISS.

Iceland? Didn't the pirate party do pretty well there?

Re: Dutch House of Representatives passes dragnet surveillance bill

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Post by wwwhizz »

mvdwoord wrote: post #44
Ruud-v-A wrote: post #2

For the Dutch people here considering what to vote in the March elections, I made an overview of statements of the parties on privacy and internet freedom: https://goo.gl/roiqVJ

Out of curiosity, has anybody ever made a tool which compares past voting behaviour in stead of comparisons with political parties campaign programs? I found some minor discrepancies between campaign programs and actual voting behaviour in the past.. ;)

I know of one: https://watstemthetparlement.nl/
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