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Re: Twitter Shares Drop as Pace of Growth Slows

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Post by swingbridge »

Twitter probably gets more free PR (with the news about famous people tweeting) than just about any tech company out there. It's sort of found its niche as a nano-blogging platform for people others like to listen to. It's never going to get to the true social network like Facebook and others have achieved, but that's fine.

The issue is just that's it's a very bloated company. I still question why Twitter isn't just like 100 people in a basement somewhere. Their revenue isn't great but it's also not terrible--it's their costs (which is mostly people related) that's complete out of whack. In my interactions with the company they always felt very bloated relative to what they do.

Re: Twitter Shares Drop as Pace of Growth Slows

#42

Post by brianbreslin »

EdiX wrote: post #10
taytus wrote: post #2

"The whole world is watching Twitter. While we may not be currently meeting everyone’s growth expectations, there is one thing that continues to grow and outpace our peers: Twitter’s influence and impact." https://medium.com/@jack/twitter-q416-earnings-call-4574b01e... I honestly don't see how they are growing in influence and impact. I'd say that if it weren't for POTUS tweets, most people wouldn't even notice any c…

Uses medium.com instead of a tweet storm...

medium is a better tool for this type of communication. it was also founded by twitter cofounder ev williams.

Re: Twitter Shares Drop as Pace of Growth Slows

#43

Post by bananarepdev »

tdkl wrote: post #37
gigatexal wrote: post #25

Twitter is in the news all the time with POTUS, or something else. Talk show hosts like Fallon use it as a bit on his show. And yet it just can't grow. It's time to start charging the twitter faithful a WhatsApp style fee of say something small a year or monthly. I'd hate for twitter to go under.

Grow where ? Do people realize there are actual limits on growth because humans aren't infinite ?

I don't think growth necessarily means growing the user base.

Re: Twitter Shares Drop as Pace of Growth Slows

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Post by [deleted] »

tdkl wrote: post #37
gigatexal wrote: post #25

Twitter is in the news all the time with POTUS, or something else. Talk show hosts like Fallon use it as a bit on his show. And yet it just can't grow. It's time to start charging the twitter faithful a WhatsApp style fee of say something small a year or monthly. I'd hate for twitter to go under.

Grow where ? Do people realize there are actual limits on growth because humans aren't infinite ?

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Re: Twitter Shares Drop as Pace of Growth Slows

#45

Post by gigatexal »

tdkl wrote: post #37
gigatexal wrote: post #25

Twitter is in the news all the time with POTUS, or something else. Talk show hosts like Fallon use it as a bit on his show. And yet it just can't grow. It's time to start charging the twitter faithful a WhatsApp style fee of say something small a year or monthly. I'd hate for twitter to go under.

Grow where ? Do people realize there are actual limits on growth because humans aren't infinite ?

319 million monthly active users. Say roughly half are bots that's still 150 million users and if only 83 million we converted to pay a dollar a month for a better experience (no ads, no bots, and some other value ad) it'd be another a billion in almost pure profit every year. I don't know. J just want the service to stay around though it could improve.

Re: Twitter Shares Drop as Pace of Growth Slows

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Post by debacle »

tdkl wrote: post #37
gigatexal wrote: post #25

Twitter is in the news all the time with POTUS, or something else. Talk show hosts like Fallon use it as a bit on his show. And yet it just can't grow. It's time to start charging the twitter faithful a WhatsApp style fee of say something small a year or monthly. I'd hate for twitter to go under.

Grow where ? Do people realize there are actual limits on growth because humans aren't infinite ?

There are different flavors of growth. For mature companies, it usually means cash money and ARPU.

Re: Twitter Shares Drop as Pace of Growth Slows

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Post by paulcole »

swingbridge wrote: post #41

Twitter probably gets more free PR (with the news about famous people tweeting) than just about any tech company out there. It's sort of found its niche as a nano-blogging platform for people others like to listen to. It's never going to get to the true social network like Facebook and others have achieved, but that's fine. The issue is just that's it's a very bloated company. I still question why Twitter isn't just…

>I still question why Twitter isn't just like 100 people in a basement somewhere.

Interesting idea. Has this ever been discussed on HN before?

Re: Twitter Shares Drop as Pace of Growth Slows

#48

Post by WillyOnWheels »

swingbridge wrote: post #41

Twitter probably gets more free PR (with the news about famous people tweeting) than just about any tech company out there. It's sort of found its niche as a nano-blogging platform for people others like to listen to. It's never going to get to the true social network like Facebook and others have achieved, but that's fine. The issue is just that's it's a very bloated company. I still question why Twitter isn't just…

Most of their costs are RSU grants to employees. I'm not smart enough to price their true value.

Re: Twitter Shares Drop as Pace of Growth Slows

#49

Post by gigatexal »

bananarepdev wrote: post #43
tdkl wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Grow where ? Do people realize there are actual limits on growth because humans aren't infinite ?

I don't think growth necessarily means growing the user base.

Exactly I'm thinking growing revenue so as to not fold. Maybe though they never should have gone public. Maybe the business model just doesn't exist for them to be profitable and maybe people have moved on from twitter to Facebook and Snapchat.

Re: Twitter Shares Drop as Pace of Growth Slows

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Post by smileysteve »

andy_ppp wrote: post #40
thebiglebrewski wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah! But...how hard is it to cut it down to real bare-bones staff and still somehow manage to have $120M in revenue and way less costs? Or is it mostly server and processing costs from how real-time their platform is?

"But...how hard is it to cut it down to real bare-bones staff" I'm sure you'd lay off the right people but it's much much more difficult than you think because everyone appears to be doing stuff. Let's say 3/4 people need to go - reviewing that individually is a nightmare for morale and very time consuming. It also never seems to happen - instead companies take the easier road and keep doing a small minimal amount of…

Even if you layoff the right people, morale of the others is going to suffer and you're likely to lose 10%+ of them too.
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