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Re: Xiaomi stops disclosing annual sales figures

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Post by kartD »

schuke wrote: post #30

Even though Xiaomi is most widely known as a smartphone manufacturer, for me it's a fantastic home appliance and electronic accessories maker. They're great value for their price. I've come to own so many of these without even noticing myself: - A great body weight scale that I use almost everyday, for around 100 yuan (~14 dollars). Has Bluetooth and syncs with your phone. I bought a second one for my mom. - Four air…

Are you using it outside of China? Just curious because I'd like to try importing their stuff

Re: Xiaomi stops disclosing annual sales figures

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Post by disiplus »

dilemma wrote: post #34
disiplus wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

i ordered xiaomi note 2 for my sister and you get what you pay. the rom is completly shit. its full of ads you cannot turn of. and the battery became unusable after only half year. because i ordered it online i dont have any warrany. my sister had to buy a new smartphone. dont just look at the specs when you buy something.

Xiaomi roms don't have ads. You ordered from a third party vendor that had installed their own rom showing ads. This is a problem of their distribution model -- the phones are available internationally only via unofficial third parties -- rather than their product.

they have ads even in official roms.

and sorry but the roms that xiaomi sells are without play services. the reason for customization. the rom is miui with google services.

Re: Xiaomi stops disclosing annual sales figures

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Post by disiplus »

DCKing wrote: post #37
disiplus wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

i ordered xiaomi note 2 for my sister and you get what you pay. the rom is completly shit. its full of ads you cannot turn of. and the battery became unusable after only half year. because i ordered it online i dont have any warrany. my sister had to buy a new smartphone. dont just look at the specs when you buy something.

There are certain gotchas when importing a Xiaomi phone, one of which is being wary of replacing the software the distributor has put on it with official Xiaomi software. Clearly you didn't do that.

official roms dont have play services, thats why there are those customizations in the first place.

Re: Xiaomi stops disclosing annual sales figures

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Post by Markoff »

disiplus wrote: post #32
DCKing wrote: post #4

It's interesting what's going on here. They have gone on record before that they're not making a profit on their phones, and evidently their tactics are creating a bit of an internal mess. They've grown very rapidly. I imported a Xiaomi Mi 4C a month or two ago for €100 (it still sells around that price). For that price you get a fantastic 5" screen, the same Snapdragon 808 chip / 2GB RAM as the €300 Nexus 5X, a more…

i ordered xiaomi note 2 for my sister and you get what you pay. the rom is completly shit. its full of ads you cannot turn of. and the battery became unusable after only half year. because i ordered it online i dont have any warrany. my sister had to buy a new smartphone. dont just look at the specs when you buy something.

nobody stops you from taking advantage of cheap Xiaomi hardware and then installing Lineage or whatever custom ROM you like there, that's what i did with my two Xiaomi phones and will do in future also with other brands like LeEco, good luck trying to catch me in your ecosystem

though it might work on majority of population without necessary skills to unlock bootloader, install recovery and ROM

but anyway outside China there are Google services even in Xiaomi phones, so their only advantage is in Chinese market where are dozens of app stores

Re: Xiaomi stops disclosing annual sales figures

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Post by Markoff »

dilemma wrote: post #34
disiplus wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

i ordered xiaomi note 2 for my sister and you get what you pay. the rom is completly shit. its full of ads you cannot turn of. and the battery became unusable after only half year. because i ordered it online i dont have any warrany. my sister had to buy a new smartphone. dont just look at the specs when you buy something.

Xiaomi roms don't have ads. You ordered from a third party vendor that had installed their own rom showing ads. This is a problem of their distribution model -- the phones are available internationally only via unofficial third parties -- rather than their product.

You can get them in major European electronics chains, no need any shady reseller. They are pricier than online but you will get clean software and two year warranty while price is still beating closest competition of Lenovo and Honor.

Re: Xiaomi stops disclosing annual sales figures

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Post by adventurer »

izacus wrote: post #36
adventurer wrote: post #23

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Counterfeit Jobs is just the media being the media. Lei Ju dressed like Steve and presented like him. They have done nothing remotely innovative as a company. Their phones looked like duplicates of the iPhone and the Samsung Galaxy lineup for years, which from my understanding, is why they haven't entered the U.S. or other markets yet.

If you actually used any of their devices you'll quickly see that "done nothing remotely innovative" is an utter lie.

You are correct, I can point to countless articles showing what they have done without actually using them. Blatant design and OS ripoffs is what I can take away from it. "AN APPLE OF ANDROID", "Xiaomi's Mi Pad Is Almost a Spitting Image of the iPad Mini", etc. Show me an article or two where they have been innovative, please.

Re: Xiaomi stops disclosing annual sales figures

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Post by tajen »

ValentineC wrote: post #38
tajen wrote: post #11

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Vendors (from Samsung to even clothing companies) make agreements with retail stores to have the same price in shops and online. Otherwise online would be cheaper and retail would refuse to list more expensive SKUs. The only ways to bypass the markup of the distribution network are: - Go "Tesla" mode: Sell directly online or manage your own distribution – Only works if you pull off a unique product, makes the pricesh…

> on the other hand Amazon decided to massively dispatch counterfeited products together with merchant-originated ones, casting a doubt on the brand and tainting all their providers together. Does this happen even with products "shipped from and sold by Amazon"?

As far as I understand, whether it is "sold by Amazon" or by a third party, they put the same products with the same ID in the same bins. Traceability is thus broken, and whichever origin you've selected, they take it from the same bin.

Now I take the question the other way: Amazon's UI confuses the user about the third party products, which is the opposite of giving clear information about genuineness and traceability. The day it matters to them, they'll proudly say "Not a Third Party".

Re: Xiaomi stops disclosing annual sales figures

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Post by schuke »

kartD wrote: post #41
schuke wrote: post #30

Even though Xiaomi is most widely known as a smartphone manufacturer, for me it's a fantastic home appliance and electronic accessories maker. They're great value for their price. I've come to own so many of these without even noticing myself: - A great body weight scale that I use almost everyday, for around 100 yuan (~14 dollars). Has Bluetooth and syncs with your phone. I bought a second one for my mom. - Four air…

Are you using it outside of China? Just curious because I'd like to try importing their stuff

I use them in Beijing. You might wanna make sure some of their designs don't have IP infringements before importing though.

Re: Xiaomi stops disclosing annual sales figures

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Post by mdrzn »

Camillo wrote: post #39
rahimnathwani wrote: post #31

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I don't believe that a large proportion of phones sold by Best Buy have a 50℅ retail markup. If that were the case, you'd expect those models' effective retail prices in China to be ~70℅ of the US retail prices. But they aren't. Brand-name mobile phones retail for roughly the same price in China as they do in the US. (With the exception of iPhones, which are about 20℅ more expensive in China than in the US). I suspec…

You are somehow mistyping % as ℅.

Are you on a retina screen or what? Great catch.

Re: Xiaomi stops disclosing annual sales figures

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Post by mdrzn »

schuke wrote: post #30

Even though Xiaomi is most widely known as a smartphone manufacturer, for me it's a fantastic home appliance and electronic accessories maker. They're great value for their price. I've come to own so many of these without even noticing myself: - A great body weight scale that I use almost everyday, for around 100 yuan (~14 dollars). Has Bluetooth and syncs with your phone. I bought a second one for my mom. - Four air…

You're missing out on the MiFit.
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