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Norway’s new passport – already a design classic?

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Re: Norway’s new passport – already a design classic?

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All cred to Norway for doing their part to make a passport something usable and something a citizen can show with pride. However not a patch on current New Zealand passport design. Everywhere i take mine out for use i get comments about how cool and yet elegant it looks - inside and out.

Your comment made me curious about the design of New Zealand passports, which eventually led me to this atlas of passport covers: https://www.passportindex.org/ Here's New Zealand's distinctive design: https://www.passportindex.org/countries/nz.png But I prefer the elegant minimalism from Switzerland: https://www.passportindex.org/countries/ch.png De gustibus non est disputandum. :-)

Beautiful passports make me wish I could collect citizenships.

Re: Norway’s new passport – already a design classic?

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The new passports will not be issued until April 2018. I just realised I'll end up with one of the first ones - my current spare passport expires on March 31st, 2018.

More likely you'll end up with one of the last ones. Generally it is good to keep at least 6 months of validity on your passport if you plan on using it. Depending on the country, it might be more difficult to renew it after it has expired than shortly before.

It really depends on the country. The US is perfectly fine with your passport up until the date of expiry, so is Canada, so is many EU countries.

Re: Norway’s new passport – already a design classic?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's still an important component of human-oriented societies, to permit the individual to inform you of who they claim to be. You rob individuals of agency, when you start dictating to them who you've declared them to be. If two identical twins appear becore you, wearing sunglasses and gloves, are you going to demand that they remove their accessories, so that your special machine can declare them honest? Sounds lik…

On several occasions I have been rather nearly killed by reckless drivers. In each instance I recorded the license plate number and phoned the police. In each instance the police said they could not be sure who was driving therefore could not even begin an inquiry. In your quasianonymous utopia, which twin is to blame when one of them comes to my country and injures someone? Neither?

I'm not going to dodge the premise of your quandary, which is that accountability and responsibility are necessary components of a civilized society, and that idealizing anonymity also introduces problems and is prone to abuse.

Your example is disconnected from this premise though, for other reasons. Even with air-tight biometrics, determining the exact identity of which twin crossed the border, the police would still have their hands tied.

Biometrics would not solve a hit-and-run manslaughter, simply because the level of surveillance necessary to prove the identity of every passenger in every driver's seat at all times would amount to oppressive totalitarianism.

In reality, a rental car provided to a vactioning traveller could have been stolen for a joy ride, and possibly returned before the renter noticed it was gone. The police would need a stroke of luck, in the form of some video footage or a witness further corroborating the identity of the driver at the time of the incident. A border crossing, and a rental agreement wouldn't confirm the criminal, even if a jury might convict on that basis alone.

Anyway, back to accountability. There's a fine line painted at the boundary of the statement: Those who have nothing to hide, have nothing to fear.

It's always going to come down to the constituents of a given society, to determine the level of discipline required to participate with adjacent members. An individual's neighbors will determine how volatile their environment is. A permissive environment may attract those rejected from other regions. A fortress may sterilize all behavior. Everyone should be able to choose their own peers, according to preference, but what if one finds themselves chosen for the purpose of exploitation? There's no easy answer to this situation. Complex systems require defense mechanisms to persist and withstand chaos. My point, though, is that people should understand which side of the defense mechanism their on, and whether they are participating deferes, or regarded as the defended, or perhaps if they are the repelled chaos.

Re: Norway’s new passport – already a design classic?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

More likely you'll end up with one of the last ones. Generally it is good to keep at least 6 months of validity on your passport if you plan on using it. Depending on the country, it might be more difficult to renew it after it has expired than shortly before.

It really depends on the country. The US is perfectly fine with your passport up until the date of expiry, so is Canada, so is many EU countries.

Be sure to check before traveling.

All of the 26 European countries comprising the Schengen area require that U.S. passports are valid for at least 90 days beyond the traveler’s intended date of departure and many assume travellers will stay 3 months, thus requiring 6 month validity.

https://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/ps/2014/09/231319.htm

Re: Norway’s new passport – already a design classic?

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Not as cool as Finland, though. Their passport design features a moose on each page, which doubles as a flip-book animation of it walking! See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ym4v2TBJwuI

I also like the new Canadian passport pages, which have clever highlighting under UV light [0] and this Hungarian EUR 20 note is inspired, with UV light showing the skeletal structure of the pictured bird [1] but sadly its just a mock-up from a final-year project by a design student...

[0] http://imgur.com/gallery/3u8xP [1] http://www.designboom.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/barbara...

Re: Norway’s new passport – already a design classic?

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Along the same lines as this new passport here are some cool design proposals from Metric[1] and Snohetta[2] for Norway's new banknotes. And a couple of concepts from US based designers[3][4] for US currency designs. [1] http://www.metricdesign.no/work/norges-bank [2] http://snohetta.com/projects/200-design-proposal-for-norway3... [3] http://www.travispurrington.com/2014-usd-proposal [4] http://tyznik.com/currency/ E…

The metric designs look A LOT like the Euro notes.

Re: Norway’s new passport – already a design classic?

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Not as cool as Finland, though. Their passport design features a moose on each page, which doubles as a flip-book animation of it walking! See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ym4v2TBJwuI

Well before that, the Slovenian passport had a man on horseback galloping along the outside edges. You can see the blue icon in a couple of positions here:

http://www.twenty.si/uploads/pics/Licul.6_01.jpg

Much easier to spot removed pages than with the subtle Finnish design.

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