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Thank You and Goodbye, the CyanogenMod Team

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Re: Thank You and Goodbye, the CyanogenMod Team

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Where does lineage mean that? I've never seen that definition.

"Lineage" can have a connotation of people talking about the great things their ancestors have done and attempting to somewhat attach themselves to those deeds, as well as an opportunity to look down on people of "lesser breeding". Obviously it has positive connotations as well, but the negative ones are definitely there.

>>"Lineage" can have a connotation of people talking about the great things their ancestors have done and attempting to somewhat attach themselves to those deeds, as well as an opportunity to look down on people of "lesser breeding".

Yeah, I guess I would have failed that Rorschach test.

Re: Thank You and Goodbye, the CyanogenMod Team

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Another tech project bites dust due to clueless managerial types trying to propel their ego...

cyanogen (the corporation) was toast when they stabbed their first major customer, oneplus, in the back... copy and paste follows: tl;dr: Cyanogen terminated their contract with OnePlus all of a sudden to enter an exclusive agreement with another company in India, causing the phone to be banned in the country. This is widely seen as a dick move. OnePlus had a worldwide (excluding mainland China) non-exclusive right t…

I bought a OnePlus One largely because it had Cyanogen. Despite the schism I continue to get regular OS updates, and it's still one of the things I most like about the phone (the non-slip covering on the back being another, oddly).

So I agree - Cyanogen had a competitive advantage, and could have been the Red Hat of Android. Signing any kind of exclusive deal killed any chance of that, and also alienated their open-minded community.

I don't think it's just hindsight that makes this sound really dumb, but it would be fascinating to find why they thought an exclusive deal was the way to go.

Now I need to find a LineageOS phone...

Re: Thank You and Goodbye, the CyanogenMod Team

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post #43

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cyanogen (the corporation) was toast when they stabbed their first major customer, oneplus, in the back... copy and paste follows: tl;dr: Cyanogen terminated their contract with OnePlus all of a sudden to enter an exclusive agreement with another company in India, causing the phone to be banned in the country. This is widely seen as a dick move. OnePlus had a worldwide (excluding mainland China) non-exclusive right t…

I bought a OnePlus One largely because it had Cyanogen. Despite the schism I continue to get regular OS updates, and it's still one of the things I most like about the phone (the non-slip covering on the back being another, oddly). So I agree - Cyanogen had a competitive advantage, and could have been the Red Hat of Android. Signing any kind of exclusive deal killed any chance of that, and also alienated their open-m…

I know several people with a oneplus 3, and the oxygenOS oneplus has developed internally is extremely similar to the current version of cyanogen that's running on my oneplus one. It looks basically like stock AOSP married with cyanogen and has all of the same extra features/advanced user toggles.

Re: Thank You and Goodbye, the CyanogenMod Team

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The conflation was deliberate. They wanted to trade on the good name of the original open project.

It was nothing sinister. Cyanogen himself, Steve Kondik, was the CEO of the new company. They were 100% open about it.

Once you've made a for profit enterprise, it's fundamentally deceptive to trade on the good will of things like volunteering, charity, add open source, because the incentive structure and relationship has changed. Someone selling me a OS for profit should be trusted far less than someone who does it for free and/or as a labor of love or duty.

There's a buying power that a consumer has that a user of something provided for free doesn't, but there is also a hell of a lot more reason to cheat, lie to, defraud a consumer than a user. There's an adversarial aspect to the relationship now.

Re: Thank You and Goodbye, the CyanogenMod Team

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Part of the problem is the confusing naming. I'm an Android fan and I can't tell the difference between CyanogenMod, Cyanogen OS, Cyanogen Inc and Cyngn. Terrible way to run a business and project when it's too hard to separate out what they each do by a unique name.

As a potentional user (having a FF OS mobile, for example) I never even learnt the name and I do not even know how to pronunce it correctly till today - seriously, the name was probably the most important reason why I do not have a mobile with the CM system on it, because it is hard to search for something you do not remember, to talk about it, etc. (I am not an English native speaker, not living in an English-speaking country.)

Re: Thank You and Goodbye, the CyanogenMod Team

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I have read this and another post from CM team. I somehow missed what the main catalyst was for shutting down. Is there a succinct explanation? What happened?

https://github.com/lineageos and http://lineageos.org/ Only a fork!

As mentioned within a very well hidden easter egg in their press release:

"We will take pride in our Lineage as we move forward and continue to build on its legacy."

Re: Thank You and Goodbye, the CyanogenMod Team

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Crazy. Imagine if Microsoft have given a single vendor exclusive rights to sell their operating system in a major market. We wouldn't even know their name today, except as a historical curio.

In the mid 1980s, Microsoft did offer exclusive rights to someone to sell DOS in Japan. The seller did a bad job. The deal had to be unwound after 4 years.

I was unaware of that - I stand corrected :)

Re: Thank You and Goodbye, the CyanogenMod Team

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post #28

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The word lineage is boring? It seems to be haughty, lofty, arrogant, and so on.

Where does lineage mean that? I've never seen that definition.

Besides the other comments, I never said that it meant that. I was describing the word, not giving the definition.
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