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Re: Show HN: ClapChat – Instant messaging for HN users

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I appreciate the dilemma: you understandably want to limit the friction in connecting HN members, and one of the means by which you're considering doing so has historically been abused so people are sensitive to it. I think 'zitterbewegung still has the right idea: it needs to be opt-in.

I don't see an issue with having a user type in an email address from someone's profile. Like the parent says in this case they're basically just using clapchat as their email client. Perhaps they could even set-up an SMTP gateway such that hn users could receive clapchats from emails sent to them @clapchat.io or whatever. Then maybe in the email they send have a tasteful link to also sign-up for clapchat. Edit: upon…

Perhaps it's useful to approach this from the other side.

Say I want to be able to communicate with HN members via email, so I include my email address in my profile. clap.chat makes it easier for clap.chat users to send me email using the email address in my profile, though ideally they want to clap.chat with me. I don't want to use clap.chat. If I don't want to use clap.chat but am getting invitations to use clap.chat, the burden to deal with that is now on me, be it with a filter, or perhaps adding a note to my profile. Perhaps clap.chat includes a record of people who have opted-out.

All of these methods parallel the behavior and handling of spam. Whether or not there's daylight between these types of invites and spam depends on one's perspective.

Re: Show HN: ClapChat – Instant messaging for HN users

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I'm very sensitive to this issue as a long time HN user I don't want to get spammed. However, as I was brainstorming this I came to this conclusion: If you put your email address in your HN profile you are opting in to people being able to reach you. ClapChat will just be a client for doing that easily and we will do everything to make sure a bot can't abuse this. For starters, you have to be authenticated to send a…

I reiterate your parent: please don't do this. Scraping a resource for email addresses and sending unsolicited email would be understood by a lot of people as spam. This would be different if they put something like the following in their profile: clap.chat: myemail@example.com Edit: spelling

I would adopt this method. Its a really good idea that avoids spam.

Re: Show HN: ClapChat – Instant messaging for HN users

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ClapChat sounds really cool and I can definitely see myself using it. To give my two cents here, I just made an HN account yesterday and my interpretation of HN's policy regarding emails is not that by entering an email you are agreeing to the possibility of being contacted by other users. I don't have an email in my profile now and the banner at the top of my profile page says "Please put a valid address in the emai…

That is correct. We cannot see that email. The only email people would see is one you put in your bio section. See my profile for an example

Got it, makes sense. Thanks for the clarification!

Re: Show HN: ClapChat – Instant messaging for HN users

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Shame this is neither FOSS nor standards-based... Matrix-based HN chat would be awesome :) (i work on matrix so am probably biased though :D)

they say further up that they will be open sourcing it. my first thought was the same, but the twillio chat they've used seems super simple, so potentially matrix was just too heavy for their simple needs at the moment

Re: Show HN: ClapChat – Instant messaging for HN users

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Shame this is neither FOSS nor standards-based... Matrix-based HN chat would be awesome :) (i work on matrix so am probably biased though :D)

they say further up that they will be open sourcing it. my first thought was the same, but the twillio chat they've used seems super simple, so potentially matrix was just too heavy for their simple needs at the moment

Hi yes! You are correct. We just wanted to go with the most simple backend service with the least amount of maintenance that we could use for starters.
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