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Re: New DEA Rule Says CBD Oil Is Really Illegal

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Post by pmoriarty »

chimeracoder wrote: post #34
Retric wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tobacco is small compared to Pharma. The average american spends over 1,000$ per year on prescription drugs.

> Tobacco is small compared to Pharma. The average american spends over 1,000$ per year on prescription drugs. Yes, but medical marijuana is a lot less important to pharmaceutical companies than recreational marijuana is to tobacco companies. Pharmaceutical companies care less about medical marijuana these days than you might think. And it's not so simple, because it's not so easy to see how money gets directed. For…

I really don't see why the alcohol, tobacco, and pharmaceutical companies can't themselves move in to production and sale of marijuana, once it becomes legal.

In fact, I'd bet this is exactly what will happen. They're even likely to come to dominate the market, much like Google did the phone market once they came out with Android, and Microsoft did the console market once they came out with the Xbox.

Re: New DEA Rule Says CBD Oil Is Really Illegal

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Post by 1024core »

msandford wrote: post #21
tobltobs wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"And people wonder why Trump won?!?" Because they where so dumb to believe the rubbish Trump said?

Obviously, but also very fed up with politicians who say "nice" things and then fail to follow through. I suspect that a large part of why Trump got as much support as he did is that people thought "this guy is a loose canon, maybe stuff will actually happen"

> Obviously, but also very fed up with politicians who say "nice" things and then fail to follow through.

Exactly what I meant, but apparently there are some on HN who'll downvote anything appearing to be complimentary of Trump, even if it is not.

I voted for Hillary, BTW.

Re: New DEA Rule Says CBD Oil Is Really Illegal

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rubyn00bie wrote: post #11

As the article says, there's nothing really new here. It's more so just making it formal instead of letting people know by having the DEA knock down their door to find out. From the article: "There is no major change in law brought about by the Register item. Rather, it serves to clarify and reinforce the DEA’s position on all cannabis extracts, including CBD oil." I was shocked people were selling CBD oils thinking…

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Re: New DEA Rule Says CBD Oil Is Really Illegal

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Post by snomad »

1024core wrote: post #3

I am so fucking tired of the DEA and the joke it has become. And I will also blame Obama for continuing this mess: as someone who smoked pot heavily in his youth (and still turned out OK), for his administration to continue this lie that cannabis is some super gateway drug and has no medicinal value, is shameful. Science, bitches! Put aside your religious biases and ask: What does science say? /rant

The shot at religion was unnecessary and does not help your point. FYI, I'm agnostic, but anti-religious bias and attacks is no better than racially or gender based attacks.

Also, science is pretty broad. I'm guessing you mean medical science. Social science, depending on area, may agree with the keep illegal stance.

Re: New DEA Rule Says CBD Oil Is Really Illegal

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Post by jessaustin »

jdmichal wrote: post #30
msandford wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Obviously, but also very fed up with politicians who say "nice" things and then fail to follow through. I suspect that a large part of why Trump got as much support as he did is that people thought "this guy is a loose canon, maybe stuff will actually happen"

> ... people thought "this guy is a loose canon, maybe stuff will actually happen" There's a very real base of voters who will always vote for "change" until they see whatever they're looking for. They voted for Obama, who even used "hope and change" as a campaign slogan. Then they voted for Trump, because he was the candidate promising change while Clinton was going to be more of the same. http://www.nytimes.com/201…

Haha I sort of thought Trump's unspoken slogan was something like, "You didn't like 'Hope and Change'? How about some Change without Hope?" Lots of people wanted that...

Re: New DEA Rule Says CBD Oil Is Really Illegal

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Post by maxerickson »

chimeracoder wrote: post #4
1024core wrote: post #3

I am so fucking tired of the DEA and the joke it has become. And I will also blame Obama for continuing this mess: as someone who smoked pot heavily in his youth (and still turned out OK), for his administration to continue this lie that cannabis is some super gateway drug and has no medicinal value, is shameful. Science, bitches! Put aside your religious biases and ask: What does science say? /rant

> And I will also blame Obama for continuing this mess He didn't just continue it; he doubled down on it. For some reason, Obama receives credit for relaxing laws on medical marijuana, but the reality is the opposite. Obama actually increased the rate of crackdowns on dispensaries in states with medical marijuana, and spent far more on enforcing federal marijuana laws in these states than either Bush or Clinton did[0…

Were there enough state-legal marijuana business operating under Clinton to make that comparison interesting?

(Bush second term to Obama first term seems like it would be the better comparison available, unless there were titanic policy shifts in the middle of either or both administrations)

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Post by jliptzin »

snomad wrote: post #45
1024core wrote: post #3

I am so fucking tired of the DEA and the joke it has become. And I will also blame Obama for continuing this mess: as someone who smoked pot heavily in his youth (and still turned out OK), for his administration to continue this lie that cannabis is some super gateway drug and has no medicinal value, is shameful. Science, bitches! Put aside your religious biases and ask: What does science say? /rant

The shot at religion was unnecessary and does not help your point. FYI, I'm agnostic, but anti-religious bias and attacks is no better than racially or gender based attacks. Also, science is pretty broad. I'm guessing you mean medical science. Social science, depending on area, may agree with the keep illegal stance.

I have to disagree with you on that. Attacking religious beliefs is strictly better than racial or gender based attacks. You can't choose your sex or race, but you can choose whether to join (or to leave) a cult and uphold the often ridiculous beliefs that go along with that. People should be berated when they attempt to force upon others the beliefs of their preferred religion which are founded on nothing more than blind faith, science be damned.

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Post by dang »

1024core wrote: post #3

I am so fucking tired of the DEA and the joke it has become. And I will also blame Obama for continuing this mess: as someone who smoked pot heavily in his youth (and still turned out OK), for his administration to continue this lie that cannabis is some super gateway drug and has no medicinal value, is shameful. Science, bitches! Put aside your religious biases and ask: What does science say? /rant

Please don't post rage rhetoric to HN. Even if your underlying point is right, setting it on fire is bad for the neighborhood.

Re: New DEA Rule Says CBD Oil Is Really Illegal

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Post by dang »

1024core wrote: post #6

Exactly! Yet another politician who goes against common sense and does the exact opposite of what he said on the campaign trail. And people wonder why Trump won?!? Edit: Are there people on HN who'll downvote anything with the string "Trump" in it? Not that I care about downvotes (it's just an int in some volatile memory on some server), but I'm surprised people would downvote without even reading.

We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13185671 and marked it off-topic.
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