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Running as a Thinking Person’s Sport

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Running is not great for losing weight, so I'm having doubts about this one...

It's been pretty effective for me. What are better ways of losing weight?

It takes hours of running to offset a couple of beers worth of calories. If you're eating unhealthy and drinking a lot, there is no amount of running to undo it.

Re: Running as a Thinking Person’s Sport

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Running is not great for losing weight, so I'm having doubts about this one...

> Running is not great for losing weight Since when? I'd like a citation on that.

Since forever. The human body is very efficient.

You have to run about 1 mile to burn 100 calories. Skipping a 1000 calorie lunch is the equivalent of running 10 miles when it comes to weight loss.

Put another way, without a diet change, you would have to run about 35 miles to lose just 1 pound of fat.

Running is good for the heart and lungs. For weight loss, not so much.

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Is 11 people a really small sample size for a study like this?

Also, i don't understand it because I'm not a neuroscientist but are the brain networks they're talking about in the abstract of the research related to conscious thinking? I find these kind of articles so frustrating, the articles themselves imply these big dubious claims, then you try to read the research and you don't know what the fk they're talking about.

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I'm also 27. When I was about 11 my left knee collapsed and I was diagnosed with Osgood Schlatter syndrome - the "syndrome" part of the name makes it sound a genetic, I don't believe it strictly is - it's just when the tendon tears off your patella. Anyway, recovered from that with physio. Later, teenage years, I was also diagnosed with flat feet, needed orthotics. I don't wear them now, I probably should though as m…

Thanks for the shaming brah

It's so unfortunate that so many people don't understand when young people are, effectively, disabled.

A friend's parents stopped talking to him and shamed him because he applied for a handicap parking permit (doctor recommended). He can't walk much more than 100 feet without agonizing pain. He's 28. The father's words were something like "how will you feel when you are taking away that parking spot from an elderly person who really needs it?"

I hope it gets better.

Re: Running as a Thinking Person’s Sport

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There are plenty of compelling arguments against excessive running: 1) It is destructive to your joints and tendons. Injury rates are very high among runners. 2) It is stressful, resulting in chronically elevated cortisol levels. 3) It is time consuming and boring (of course this is subjective), and very inefficient at improving fitness.

Anything done excessively can be unhealthy, by definition, but there's only a grain of truth to what you're saying. To your point 1: done properly, running isn't particularly harmful to joints and tendons, and some studies even seem to show that running can be beneficial in that regard[1]. The rapid changes in direction that cause the most stress are less prevalent in running than just about any other sport, not even…

The person you responded to never said that exercise is bad, or that being fit isn't important. They simply were responding to the statement that they had never heard an argument that running could be bad. You really jumped to conclusions by assuming they were saying exercise is not valuable.

Re: Running as a Thinking Person’s Sport

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As this described by the NYT (maybe the original paper describes it better?), there's all sorts of problems with this conclusion: - A very small sample size - Confounding factors: one group consists of collegiate runners (i.e., college students), and another consists of "young men" i.e., presumably men who didn't necessarily go to college. Even if both groups consisted entirely of college students, there might be oth…

Right? There are no conclusions they can draw about running in particular, since they are basically comparing fit people to unfit people.

Re: Running as a Thinking Person’s Sport

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Anything done excessively can be unhealthy, by definition, but there's only a grain of truth to what you're saying. To your point 1: done properly, running isn't particularly harmful to joints and tendons, and some studies even seem to show that running can be beneficial in that regard[1]. The rapid changes in direction that cause the most stress are less prevalent in running than just about any other sport, not even…

The person you responded to never said that exercise is bad, or that being fit isn't important. They simply were responding to the statement that they had never heard an argument that running could be bad. You really jumped to conclusions by assuming they were saying exercise is not valuable.

The problem is the OP said "against running regularly" and the responder said "excessive". Neither "regularly" nor "excessive" were well-defined. Regular could be anywhere from 2-3 times a week to daily. Excessive could be anywhere from daily to many times daily, and probably is more about time/distance run than frequency of runs (daily 1 mile runs would be hard to consider excessive, but daily marathons?).

Defining our terms is critical in conversation (and something I probably need to work on as well).

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Thanks for the shaming brah

It's so unfortunate that so many people don't understand when young people are, effectively, disabled. A friend's parents stopped talking to him and shamed him because he applied for a handicap parking permit (doctor recommended). He can't walk much more than 100 feet without agonizing pain. He's 28. The father's words were something like "how will you feel when you are taking away that parking spot from an elderly p…

I feel like an ass now- I'm nowhere near as bad as your friend yet- it certainly hasn't hit my hips or back yet, my autonomy isn't affected, I don't need painkillers.

For what it's worth, pass on my support to him- if only for selfish reasons; I see myself becoming like him in the near future.

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It's been pretty effective for me. What are better ways of losing weight?

It takes hours of running to offset a couple of beers worth of calories. If you're eating unhealthy and drinking a lot, there is no amount of running to undo it.

A beer is, say, 150 calories. A mile of running burns about 100 calories. When I ran, cruising speed was 7 minutes per mile. So a light 6 mile (10k) run would be about 45 minutes, 600 calories, or 6 miles.

Re: Running as a Thinking Person’s Sport

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post #42

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> Running is not great for losing weight Since when? I'd like a citation on that.

Since forever. The human body is very efficient. You have to run about 1 mile to burn 100 calories. Skipping a 1000 calorie lunch is the equivalent of running 10 miles when it comes to weight loss. Put another way, without a diet change, you would have to run about 35 miles to lose just 1 pound of fat. Running is good for the heart and lungs. For weight loss, not so much.

I think running reduces my appetite.
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