Food? I could put up with everything in China, even the Great Firewall, but food, except xiao long bao, is really no go.
China won't be luring foreign tech talent any time soon
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Re: China won't be luring foreign tech talent any time soon
#42The salaries in china are getting way higher than in silicon valley as far as I can see and that's gonna make people move. Especially with more and more layoffs in SV and the european market lacking jobs. EDIT: Looks like I'm wrong, I did the wrong conversion while on glassdoor. Salary in china are way lower than SV My point is that people move where the money is, when the salary are gonna be higher, people are gonna…
I really doubt the salaries are higher than Silicon Valley. Do you have any proof?
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#43Earlier quoted context omitted.
Correct The problem would be much smaller if they used a non-tonal language with a manageable alphabet or abjad (like Cyrillic or Arabic)
Is learning tones much harder than learning all the weird vowel and consonant sounds that English has? I'd always though of English and China as examples of hard languages in terms of sounds and languages like Spanish and Japanese as easy in terms of sounds.
Honestly if you just write characters over and over while listening to Chinese TV you'll be fine. That's how I studied and when I presented in my Chinese class, the two students from Chongqing (who were taking the class to learn traditional characters) were so surprised at my pronunciation their jaws were on the floor.
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#44Earlier quoted context omitted.
Korean's alphabet is simpler than both you listed imho, but that's just my take.
I disagree, because the Korean alphabet requires composition of glyphs Arabic has some marks and different start/middle/end forms but it is simpler
Arabic and Korean both possess phonetic alphabets. If you define a glyph as a pictogram then you'd have to consider Arabic to be under the same umbrella.
>>Arabic [has] different start/middle/end forms [...]
As far as I'm aware, Korean doesn't have different characters (forms) for the same sound, and doesn't omit vowels in the same manner that written Arabic does sometimes.
However, in the grand scheme of things, China has invested too much culturally, traditionally and publicly to walk away from their (relatively recently) simplified writing system and language.
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#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
Korean's alphabet is simpler than both you listed imho, but that's just my take.
hangul is probably my favorite writing system, but I wouldn't really consider it any simpler than an alphabet type system. Can't speak for abjads, though. Also, converting spoken Korean into text can be tricky for non native speakers (e.g. 맛 is pronounced 'Mat' although the spelling would indicate 'Mas')
Not like english do not have a whole lot of weird spellings (never mind that British english and American english spell things differently).
Re: China won't be luring foreign tech talent any time soon
#46I have to say that most problem is not true. Most Chinese don't prefer youtube and even for the university student knows how to pass the block by vpn and other softwares. Also in some university Google is not blocked.
You're thinking of it as a technical problem, but government controlled media and censorship is a social problem.
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#47Question I have wondered about from time to time: does China have it's own Github "clone"?
https://git.oschina.net/ https://coding.net/ http://code.csdn.net/ These are more towards team collaboration. imo China doesn't have the ecosystem for open source. Too many people just take the code, rebrand and market it as their own product...
I've seen this recently with deep-learning libraries on Github (when using the search); people (located in China, according to their profile) copying other peoples' repositories (e.g. TensorFlow), changing the title, description and readme, and then trying to pass it off as their own by rewriting the revision history.
It's actually becoming an issue when using the search functionality.
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#48Re: China won't be luring foreign tech talent any time soon
#49Earlier quoted context omitted.
Correct The problem would be much smaller if they used a non-tonal language with a manageable alphabet or abjad (like Cyrillic or Arabic)
Is learning tones much harder than learning all the weird vowel and consonant sounds that English has? I'd always though of English and China as examples of hard languages in terms of sounds and languages like Spanish and Japanese as easy in terms of sounds.
Just curious, what are some examples of difficult/weird vowel or consonant sounds that you think English has? And why do you think Spanish is easy in terms of sounds?
IMO Mandarin is pretty difficult since it has both tones and weird vowels/consonants - I feel like in English most people struggling tend to only have significant trouble with articles and the "th" sound.
Re: China won't be luring foreign tech talent any time soon
#50The salaries in china are getting way higher than in silicon valley as far as I can see and that's gonna make people move. Especially with more and more layoffs in SV and the european market lacking jobs. EDIT: Looks like I'm wrong, I did the wrong conversion while on glassdoor. Salary in china are way lower than SV My point is that people move where the money is, when the salary are gonna be higher, people are gonna…
I don't doubt your claim, but do you have any hard data on total comp in China? This comment would a lot more informative if we knew how much more they are paying and so on.