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Epson customers report Google Cloud Print causing printers to power down

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Re: Epson customers report Google Cloud Print causing printers to power down

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Post by userbinator »

yoodenvranx wrote: post #35
agumonkey wrote: post #6

We'll have Fusion reactors before solid and enjoyable printers.

I was dreading to buy a printer for a few years but a month ago I finally bought a small Brother HL-1110 laser printer. The instalation on Linix was completely hassle free and it worked perfectly fine. At least until I tried to print a gray-scale picture... For some reason tje printer refuses to print if the image covers more than roughly 50-60% of the page. Instead of giving any error it just blinks a few times and…

It might be out of memory. I'm not sure if that model can be upgraded, but that used to be a pretty common thing to do for HP lasers.

There is an interesting discussion on that exact model here:

http://superuser.com/questions/758561/when-does-a-laser-prin...

Re: Epson customers report Google Cloud Print causing printers to power down

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Post by userbinator »

agumonkey wrote: post #21
Yizahi wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Canon 6030 was surprisingly good. It didn't have any driver issues (unlike other Canon printers that dropped support after 2000/XP) it just works on any Windows version, it doesn't need to reset chip in the cartridge to simulate new cartridge. And it worked for 1.5 years in hellish environment and is still going on - in extremely dusty tent (amount of dust that accumulates in an apartment in several months in one day…

Printers are a bit like cars, not enough genericity. It used to be worth it in the 90s when there was innovation but now it's going backward every time. Everything is coupled where it shouldn't. Fat proprietary drivers, bad interfaces physical and software, coupled network links, cheap tricks to ensure regular costs (ink drm etc); bad mechanics (HP printers are more and more noisy)... It's mostly a social problem, ma…

I'm sure there a nice void for a more humane printer kit, cheaper ink, acceptable open drivers, and more creative usage.

Industrial/commercial printers qualify at least for the "cheaper ink" part, and you can actually buy individual parts like printheads, complete with documentation; however, they cost at least an order of magnitude more and tend to have much lower resolutions.

Re: Epson customers report Google Cloud Print causing printers to power down

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Post by agumonkey »

pjc50 wrote: post #37
agumonkey wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Printers are a bit like cars, not enough genericity. It used to be worth it in the 90s when there was innovation but now it's going backward every time. Everything is coupled where it shouldn't. Fat proprietary drivers, bad interfaces physical and software, coupled network links, cheap tricks to ensure regular costs (ink drm etc); bad mechanics (HP printers are more and more noisy)... It's mostly a social problem, ma…

Sadly, genericity is death for product margins. Profit comes from lockin, like HP's ridiculous cloud ink services. I don't think there's a market for a more open printer, not at the price you'd have to charge for your small production runs.

Understood, maybe it's time for something or someone to put that market at rest so everybody can use their time for better thing, users and companies engineers ?

Re: Epson customers report Google Cloud Print causing printers to power down

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Post by tremon »

rkangel wrote: post #14
agumonkey wrote: post #6

We'll have Fusion reactors before solid and enjoyable printers.

People just don't seem to realise that moving parts are hard. Phones are incredibly complex but (mostly) just keep working until you drop them on a hard floor. Cars have lots of moving parts and need maintenance. Screens use complicated technology and (mostly) just keep working. Printers have moving parts and break a lot. Moving parts are inherently unreliable. We've just got really used to the incredible reliability…

People just don't seem to realise that moving parts are hard

Do you realize that you're making this comment on a thread about a global problem that involves no moving parts at all?

Re: Epson customers report Google Cloud Print causing printers to power down

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Post by robk »

semi-extrinsic wrote: post #17
tonyedgecombe wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We used to have solid and enjoyable printers, around about 1990 was the peak (LaserJet III).

You're saying I should definitely rescue the unused LaserJet III from the dusty corner at the office printer room?

You laugh but I only buy laserjet 5500 or 4700 printers now for home and work. They're cheaper to own and operate than most new inkjets if you are patient for toner deals on Amazon or ebay.

Re: Epson customers report Google Cloud Print causing printers to power down

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Post by DanBC »

agumonkey wrote: post #26
MawNicker wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You didn't mean what you said? Did you have a chance to not mean everything you did not say?

Come on.

MawNicker is a (bot?) troll account on HN and Reddit.

https://www.reddit.com/user/mawnicker

Re: Epson customers report Google Cloud Print causing printers to power down

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Post by BrandonBradley »

tssva wrote: post #2

My Nexus 6P went into a boot loop on Monday and I got an RMA issued. UPS emailed me the return shipping label last night and when I went to print it this morning I couldn't because my Epson WorkForce 845 was in a boot loop.

Yo dog. You got 'boot looted'.
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