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Re: Grafana 4.0 with alerting is released

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Post by apeofsteel »

user5994461 wrote: post #30

Quick note for the ones who are tired of the giant clusterfuck of open-source tools for monitoring + alerting + storage + other, which is no less than: - statsd - collectd - graphite - whisper - carbon - prometheus - grafana - seyren - riemann - nagios - icinga - zabbix There are multiple modern SaaS software that will do all of that in a single tool with better integrations, more polish, less work and no maintenance…

Also https://www.hostedgraphite.com - We host Graphite and StatsD with Grafana dashboards, as well as alerting and integrations to several other dev tools. It's a self-funded business running for 5 years, and profitable with 14+ staff.

Re: Grafana 4.0 with alerting is released

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Post by xorcist »

user5994461 wrote: post #30

Quick note for the ones who are tired of the giant clusterfuck of open-source tools for monitoring + alerting + storage + other, which is no less than: - statsd - collectd - graphite - whisper - carbon - prometheus - grafana - seyren - riemann - nagios - icinga - zabbix There are multiple modern SaaS software that will do all of that in a single tool with better integrations, more polish, less work and no maintenance…

s/clusterfuck/ecosystem/

A typical system doesn't use all of the tools above. You use what fits you and many of the tools play pretty well together. I've had luck with Icinga2 and Grafana lately, for example, which integrated quite smoothly out of the box.

Re: Grafana 4.0 with alerting is released

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Post by user5994461 »

katabatic wrote: post #38
user5994461 wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To have been on the maintainer sides of the OSS tools, your statement is untrue. The OSS tools costs a fortune in human to maintain them, and another fortune in hardware to run it.

Datadog will cost you $165,600 a year for 600 hosts. That is objectively equal to a very well paid engineer. So no, the statement is not untrue. (I picked 600 because that was the approximate number of machines we had at my last job, where we used Graphite maintained by one guy, part time). You included a LOT of redundancy in your OSS list. Multiple timeseries databases. Multiple collection daemons. Multiple dashboar…

Indeed, I gave a list of all the tools, you only need to make a stack of about 4 to 8 of them to get the job done.

Let's say statsd + collectd (metrics collection) + graphite (aggregation) + carbon/whisper (graphite storage) + icinga (alerting) + grafana (graphing). That doesn't exactly come easy.

No offense but a single graphite is not a monitoring solution. It's just the tip of the iceberg. Monitoring does take a lot of engineering work and a lot of maintenance. You won't get away operating 600 hosts on the cheap, just think about how much are the hosts themselves.

Re: Grafana 4.0 with alerting is released

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Post by katabatic »

smegel wrote: post #4

Hmm didn't know this was written in Go. Seems like Go is doing quite well in this space also with Bosun and Scollector.

Go code compiles to compact, statically linked binaries with relatively compact memory usage and reasonably good concurrency support, and an excellent standard library for handling networking - it's a natural fit for monitoring stacks. Even some monitoring systems that aren't Go on the back-end have Go-based collectors.

Re: Grafana 4.0 with alerting is released

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Post by nopzor »

user5994461 wrote: post #30

Quick note for the ones who are tired of the giant clusterfuck of open-source tools for monitoring + alerting + storage + other, which is no less than: - statsd - collectd - graphite - whisper - carbon - prometheus - grafana - seyren - riemann - nagios - icinga - zabbix There are multiple modern SaaS software that will do all of that in a single tool with better integrations, more polish, less work and no maintenance…

Agree that the SaaS offerings are a lot more turnkey; the integrations and polish that make all the difference.

What you call a 'clusterfuck' is really a wider ecosystem. It would be pretty crazy for a single organization to use all or even most of the tools that you list.

Right now, people accept high degrees of cost (especially for at scale users) and lock-in, in exchange for the convenience of SaaS. Or, they go open source (which to your point, certainly is an investment in time)

Watch out for what team Grafana will be doing in 2017. Our plan is to provide a fully turnkey, hosted offering based around Grafana (and a handful of other open source tools). OpenSaaS.

We hope that for many users, this can be a third choice, and in some ways the best of both worlds.

Re: Grafana 4.0 with alerting is released

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Post by mattkrea »

hoov wrote: post #39
mattkrea wrote: post #36

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What kind of volume are you sending into Influx? It crashed on me probably 5 times a day with only 100 requests per second.

Was this an older build? We had serious issues at first, but our setup is pretty stable these days.

Last I tried was 1.0.

I love everything about using Influx but it would die and never restart and every time it would some crash on semacquire. I'll have to try it again since I need to check out this Grafana update anyway.

Re: Grafana 4.0 with alerting is released

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Post by user5994461 »

nopzor wrote: post #45
user5994461 wrote: post #30

Quick note for the ones who are tired of the giant clusterfuck of open-source tools for monitoring + alerting + storage + other, which is no less than: - statsd - collectd - graphite - whisper - carbon - prometheus - grafana - seyren - riemann - nagios - icinga - zabbix There are multiple modern SaaS software that will do all of that in a single tool with better integrations, more polish, less work and no maintenance…

Agree that the SaaS offerings are a lot more turnkey; the integrations and polish that make all the difference. What you call a 'clusterfuck' is really a wider ecosystem. It would be pretty crazy for a single organization to use all or even most of the tools that you list. Right now, people accept high degrees of cost (especially for at scale users) and lock-in, in exchange for the convenience of SaaS. Or, they go op…

No offense but Grafana is only as good as the weaker piece in the monitoring chain.

Having nice graphs is nice... until they fall apart because the source is unavailable.

And that doesn't help with alerts either. (I tested the alerts in the v4 beta, it's just not comparable to the better alerting tools out there).

Re: Grafana 4.0 with alerting is released

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Post by RRRA »

alfalfasprout wrote: post #25
RRRA wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What transport are you using to secure telegraf into influxdb? (Haven't tried telegraf yet, setuping a prometheus at the moment)

Not sure what you mean "secure telegraph into influxdb" but we've had great success with this stack for monitoring by just embedding an HTTP server into each application that needs to be monitored. We keep the HTTP server separate from any others used by the application (i.e. it runs on a separate thread) so performance isn't impacted.

My use case is one where I have servers in different datacenters and would want to have a simple, but secure, way to fetch metrics for graphing and alerts.

So, I meant encryption in transport, authentication, etc. as many solutions work well if you're monitoring "in the clear" from the backend, but not so much over the internet.

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