> back then I grew tired of Linux desktop (which is going to be MASSIVE NEXT YEAR, at least since 2001) The snark was really unnecessary.
I agree, I've been running Arch Linux on my MBP Retina for 2+ years now almost without problems. I bet if the OP tried Linux, they'd be absolutely fine.
FreeBSD on a MacBook Pro
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Re: FreeBSD on a MacBook Pro
#42Earlier quoted context omitted.
at least for Ubuntu on a 2013 MBP I had to install non-free wifi, everything else Just Worked (tm)
How much battery life do you get from this configuration? macOS is optimized for power. FreeBSD not so much, I believe.
Re: FreeBSD on a MacBook Pro
#43Some months ago I got FreeBSD running in a Macbook Air, and surprisingly the UEFI boot worked out of the box. I say surprisingly because when I tried, the Linux efiboot didn't work, the only way to boot linux was through GRUB. I had almost everything working (Audio, suspend on close, i3 or gnome) but never got the wifi to work, I even tethered from my android phone to the Macbook and it worked very good. But in the e…
Also, you can build the updated graphics drivers from https://github.com/FreeBSDDesktop/freebsd-base-graphics
Re: FreeBSD on a MacBook Pro
#44> Six years later, it less and less "Just Works", started turning into spyware and nagware, and doesn't need much less maintenance than Linux desktop — at least for my work, which is system administration and software development, probably it is better for the mythical End User person. Work needed to get software I need running is not less obscure than work I'd need to do on Linux or othe Unix-like system.... GUI tha…
I have complaints about the UI changes in OS X sometimes but it's still not as bad as half the Linux applications I'd use in place of OS X ones like Tower
And every time I try Linux i still have issues like the "sleep of death" and NVIDIA Optimus support being in poorly documented limbo (your dedicated GPU is both in use and out of use until you run a graphical benchmark and measure the current draw of your laptop)
And I prefer Homebrew to apt. I've never had Homebrew fail to install other packages because I had a package install break previously, which is always something that drove me nuts about apt.
Re: FreeBSD on a MacBook Pro
#45I really want to try this out. I was a heavy FreeBSD user for many years in the 2000s, and I drifted back into Linux. One thing I will say for FreeBSD, it's harder to get dialed in but once it is, it's very solid. I think with enough tinkering FreeBSD would run really well on a MBP, I just wonder if it would provide a lot of advantages over OSX to make it worth the time.
Random question for you, how does the shell experience on FreeBSD compare to MacOS? Linux?
Re: FreeBSD on a MacBook Pro
#46> Six years later, it less and less "Just Works", started turning into spyware and nagware, and doesn't need much less maintenance than Linux desktop — at least for my work, which is system administration and software development, probably it is better for the mythical End User person. Work needed to get software I need running is not less obscure than work I'd need to do on Linux or othe Unix-like system.... GUI tha…
Homebrew and a Vagrant managed Linux VM depending on the situation. I'm seriously considering moving to Linux next time I'm switching my work laptop.
By the way, is it just me or have the vms better disk performance but slower graphics in Linux?
Re: FreeBSD on a MacBook Pro
#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
A shell is a shell for the most part. The details can be a bit different (like your $PATH), but otherwise its largely the same.
try rm -rf somedir/ vs rm somedir/ -rf Linux (the former) allows me to be lazy while MacOS (the latter) forces me to hit crtl-a and insert -rf.
Re: FreeBSD on a MacBook Pro
#48> back then I grew tired of Linux desktop (which is going to be MASSIVE NEXT YEAR, at least since 2001) The snark was really unnecessary.
I agree, I've been running Arch Linux on my MBP Retina for 2+ years now almost without problems. I bet if the OP tried Linux, they'd be absolutely fine.
does close-lid-to-sleep and open-lid-to-wake work?
Re: FreeBSD on a MacBook Pro
#49Re: FreeBSD on a MacBook Pro
#50I'm using FreeBSD on Lenovo X220, and while it's obviously no MacBook, everything important to me (wifi, suspend-to-ram, graphic support, long battery usage, HDMI out) just worked out of the box (apart from the initial install, which wasn't FreeBSD's but Lenovo's fault and is since being worked around in recent FreeBSD installers). I can really recommend it if you want to give FreeBSD a try on a Laptop.