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Re: FreeBSD on a MacBook Pro

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> back then I grew tired of Linux desktop (which is going to be MASSIVE NEXT YEAR, at least since 2001) The snark was really unnecessary.

I agree, I've been running Arch Linux on my MBP Retina for 2+ years now almost without problems. I bet if the OP tried Linux, they'd be absolutely fine.

Linux was the only OS on my desktop in 1994...

Re: FreeBSD on a MacBook Pro

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post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

at least for Ubuntu on a 2013 MBP I had to install non-free wifi, everything else Just Worked (tm)

How much battery life do you get from this configuration? macOS is optimized for power. FreeBSD not so much, I believe.

FreeBSD battery life is generally good, especially with https://github.com/lonkamikaze/powerdxx

Re: FreeBSD on a MacBook Pro

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post #5

Some months ago I got FreeBSD running in a Macbook Air, and surprisingly the UEFI boot worked out of the box. I say surprisingly because when I tried, the Linux efiboot didn't work, the only way to boot linux was through GRUB. I had almost everything working (Audio, suspend on close, i3 or gnome) but never got the wifi to work, I even tethered from my android phone to the Macbook and it worked very good. But in the e…

No one ported the broadcom wifi drivers. New Intel cards (7260, 8260) are supported.

Also, you can build the updated graphics drivers from https://github.com/FreeBSDDesktop/freebsd-base-graphics

Re: FreeBSD on a MacBook Pro

#44

> Six years later, it less and less "Just Works", started turning into spyware and nagware, and doesn't need much less maintenance than Linux desktop — at least for my work, which is system administration and software development, probably it is better for the mythical End User person. Work needed to get software I need running is not less obscure than work I'd need to do on Linux or othe Unix-like system.... GUI tha…

The problem for me is OSX still takes less maintenance than Linux and provides a higher quality experience than Linux.

I have complaints about the UI changes in OS X sometimes but it's still not as bad as half the Linux applications I'd use in place of OS X ones like Tower

And every time I try Linux i still have issues like the "sleep of death" and NVIDIA Optimus support being in poorly documented limbo (your dedicated GPU is both in use and out of use until you run a graphical benchmark and measure the current draw of your laptop)

And I prefer Homebrew to apt. I've never had Homebrew fail to install other packages because I had a package install break previously, which is always something that drove me nuts about apt.

Re: FreeBSD on a MacBook Pro

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I really want to try this out. I was a heavy FreeBSD user for many years in the 2000s, and I drifted back into Linux. One thing I will say for FreeBSD, it's harder to get dialed in but once it is, it's very solid. I think with enough tinkering FreeBSD would run really well on a MBP, I just wonder if it would provide a lot of advantages over OSX to make it worth the time.

Random question for you, how does the shell experience on FreeBSD compare to MacOS? Linux?

Why would you care at all about something like that? No matter if I am on Linux, BSD or OSX, I am installing the shell I like&want to use and don't spend more time in default bash/tcsh/whatever else of the OS than it takes to perform install and run `chsh`. It's like literally one of the last things that'd weight on my OS choice.

Re: FreeBSD on a MacBook Pro

#46
post #27

> Six years later, it less and less "Just Works", started turning into spyware and nagware, and doesn't need much less maintenance than Linux desktop — at least for my work, which is system administration and software development, probably it is better for the mythical End User person. Work needed to get software I need running is not less obscure than work I'd need to do on Linux or othe Unix-like system.... GUI tha…

Homebrew and a Vagrant managed Linux VM depending on the situation. I'm seriously considering moving to Linux next time I'm switching my work laptop.

Did this at work, haven't looked back since. Having first class package management support is something I never want to live without again. I still use a lot of virtual machines, but mostly to keep different projects separated.

By the way, is it just me or have the vms better disk performance but slower graphics in Linux?

Re: FreeBSD on a MacBook Pro

#47
post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A shell is a shell for the most part. The details can be a bit different (like your $PATH), but otherwise its largely the same.

try rm -rf somedir/ vs rm somedir/ -rf Linux (the former) allows me to be lazy while MacOS (the latter) forces me to hit crtl-a and insert -rf.

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Re: FreeBSD on a MacBook Pro

#48
post #3

> back then I grew tired of Linux desktop (which is going to be MASSIVE NEXT YEAR, at least since 2001) The snark was really unnecessary.

I agree, I've been running Arch Linux on my MBP Retina for 2+ years now almost without problems. I bet if the OP tried Linux, they'd be absolutely fine.

how is battery life?

does close-lid-to-sleep and open-lid-to-wake work?

Re: FreeBSD on a MacBook Pro

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I'm using FreeBSD on Lenovo X220, and while it's obviously no MacBook, everything important to me (wifi, suspend-to-ram, graphic support, long battery usage, HDMI out) just worked out of the box (apart from the initial install, which wasn't FreeBSD's but Lenovo's fault and is since being worked around in recent FreeBSD installers). I can really recommend it if you want to give FreeBSD a try on a Laptop.

Re: FreeBSD on a MacBook Pro

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I'm using FreeBSD on Lenovo X220, and while it's obviously no MacBook, everything important to me (wifi, suspend-to-ram, graphic support, long battery usage, HDMI out) just worked out of the box (apart from the initial install, which wasn't FreeBSD's but Lenovo's fault and is since being worked around in recent FreeBSD installers). I can really recommend it if you want to give FreeBSD a try on a Laptop.

ps: make sure you get a wifi card that is supported by FreeBSD. While you can put in a supported one, the X220 won't boot because Lenovo put a Wifi card whitelist into the BIOS and you need to install a patched BIOS from a dubious source.
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