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Ask HN: POTUS Donald Trump; What this means to Silicon Valley

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Re: Ask HN: POTUS Donald Trump; What this means to Silicon Valley

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That Peter Thiel is really good at picking winners and disruption.

Having watched and listened to Thiel for several years now, I came up with a pet hypothesis I call 'The Wolfian World' that I feel describes what's going on more accurately than the newspapers. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12884413

Your comment was a very interesting read. A shame that it didn't get any further discussion. I'll give The Book of the New Sun a go. Thanks for your insights.

Re: Ask HN: POTUS Donald Trump; What this means to Silicon Valley

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hillary is a face of western corruption to much of the world. That's not even slightly true here in the UK.

The UK is part of the west. He's talking about the face of corruption from Russia's point of view.

Then that's a pretty bad argument that Trump's election will make software developers from "Europe, Australia, NZ, etc." more willing to come to the US.

Re: Ask HN: POTUS Donald Trump; What this means to Silicon Valley

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I'd guess it will be a harder sell to get software developers in Europe, Australia, NZ, etc. to move to the US.

Or easier. Hillary is a face of western corruption to much of the world. So long as Trump delegates the tech stuff properly and doesn't do anything too unusual the moral choice of the US should be easier.

I don't know where you get your facts from, but the way the world sees the Clintons (whether corrupt or not) is as "expedient, better work with them, good things might come out of it." The way the world sees Trump is "what the fuck? This guy used to be a reality TV star in a program that didn't really make it outside of the US? What? He also says all this bizarre things?"

If you thought American image around the world was at its lowest it could reach during GWB's presidency, oh boy you are in for a surprise.

Re: Ask HN: POTUS Donald Trump; What this means to Silicon Valley

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I actually think there is a possibility that it could be easier to get into US as highly skilled migrant under Trump presidency because of his anti-immigrant polities. If he raises a minimum income bar for H1B to 150K and keep the same cap, then it would be much less qualified applicants for H1B visas and therefore there would not be cap overflow with annoying lottery process. Of course, I can't predict what Trump is…

> which would be very stupid move Why? Because the salaries of US-based programmers would rise? Because companies would be more motivated to train locals instead of importing foreigners?

>Because the salaries of US-based programmers would rise? Because companies would be more motivated to train locals instead of importing foreigners?

Or it just speeds up outsourcing.

Re: Ask HN: POTUS Donald Trump; What this means to Silicon Valley

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NZ dev here. Trump getting in doesn't worry me I'd love to work in the US. I think it's all been overblown.

I'm also a dev from NZ, and I worked in the US a few years ago. Honestly it's not all it's cracked up to be, and I wouldn't choose to go back there. Trump didn't factor into that decision, but now it's even less enticing.

Aussie dev here with a similar story. I lived and worked in the bay area for a couple of years a few years ago. I wouldn't choose to go back there either, especially now.

And I have Australian friends in the bay area now who are reconsidering which country they want their tax dollars to go to.

Re: Ask HN: POTUS Donald Trump; What this means to Silicon Valley

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we import quite a bit from China, so tariffs would be painful.

+ We are outsourced there but we are the customers in that equation. The Chinese will not make things more difficult for American buyers - they are in a very pernicious situation as it is. + As for tariffs: the thing is - we are already in a trade war . China can sell in the US at will. China blocks tons of American companies from selling to China. American exports to China are almost nothing. The Chinese are already…

> American exports to China are almost nothing.

Except they are quite significant, third largest after Canada and Mexico.

Re: Ask HN: POTUS Donald Trump; What this means to Silicon Valley

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post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Having watched and listened to Thiel for several years now, I came up with a pet hypothesis I call 'The Wolfian World' that I feel describes what's going on more accurately than the newspapers. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12884413

Your comment was a very interesting read. A shame that it didn't get any further discussion. I'll give The Book of the New Sun a go. Thanks for your insights.

Thanks. You won't regret it. It is a most extraordinary masterwork.

That book changed my thinking in ways I find difficult to describe. It was as if the world suddenly developed richer textures. I don't know if he would agree, but I felt it was a very 'Thielian' book. A lot of his ideas and statements came into focus for me when I read it. Together with the recordings I mention it became quite an experience.

Re: Ask HN: POTUS Donald Trump; What this means to Silicon Valley

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I actually think there is a possibility that it could be easier to get into US as highly skilled migrant under Trump presidency because of his anti-immigrant polities. If he raises a minimum income bar for H1B to 150K and keep the same cap, then it would be much less qualified applicants for H1B visas and therefore there would not be cap overflow with annoying lottery process. Of course, I can't predict what Trump is…

150K is a bit unrealistic. The US is not only Silicon Valley. But 100K is realistic, and I would certainly appreciate that.

Regarding the quota of 65.000-110.000/year: With a 100K salary cap the numbers could stay the same. What's clear is that the H1-B visa departments are not able to process even 50.000 per season. The ones who take the risk or can afford it not to travel are staying and waiting for the processing after the first 3 years. The others, esp. the ones who need to do business traveling and their visa was not processed (even with Priority) have to leave the country and the program, like me.

Streamline the process, get more personal or raise the cap.

Re: Ask HN: POTUS Donald Trump; What this means to Silicon Valley

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm also a dev from NZ, and I worked in the US a few years ago. Honestly it's not all it's cracked up to be, and I wouldn't choose to go back there. Trump didn't factor into that decision, but now it's even less enticing.

In what city did you work?

I was in San Francisco. Admittedly, that's a very unique situation. But I was shocked to see so many homeless people, and that the streets were so dirty. I was shocked to hear so many reports of gun violence coming from Oakland. There is just so much hopelessness in America.

I had a really bad experience with health care. In New Zealand, I never had to think twice about visiting the ER or hospital, where it's free, very high quality, and there's no long waits. In the US, a few trips to the ER including x-rays cost me something like ten thousand dollars, even after health insurance. My startup's plan might have not been great, but I understand why so many Americans go bankrupt from medical debt. I have a friend who went through cancer, which ended up costing millions of dollars. His family would have literally lost their home without the Affordable Care Act, which prohibits lifetime limits.

Having said that, I do like most things about San Francisco. There's some great food, great people, and so many things to do. It's a great place to live if you are wealthy. I wouldn't go back there as an employee or a startup founder, but maybe one day as an investor.

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