This project has been around since 2012. I'm glad to see it's getting some momentum!
Darling – MacOS translation layer for Linux
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Re: Darling – MacOS translation layer for Linux
#42This project has been around since 2012. I'm glad to see it's getting some momentum!
I am following its status since it was created, i think it is pretty much dead.
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#43Earlier quoted context omitted.
No, Windows had an Unix subsystem since forever, and WSL helps switchers more than ever actually.
And that is related to which part of my post, because I do not see the connection? I didn't mention Windows. And good luck with wrestling with Windows doing UNIX things. It had it, but it was not comparable to Linux and BSDs. Now it is better situation, much better, but still I would rather spin some BSD based system in VM, than try and use Ubuntu through WSL.
SUA(SubSystem for Unix-based Applications) is litterally a BSD fork...
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#44Re: Darling – MacOS translation layer for Linux
#45Is there anything the other way around? Running a Linux binary on MacOS? Sometimes the source isn't available so recompiling isn't an option.
Could you maybe reuse some of the Docker integration into the host system?
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#46I am hoping that with cross platform Swift we can start seeing more libraries to help us port Mac apps to Linux. I am a Mac developer but I'd love to make stuff available on Linux. I really like Linux as a backup plan, in case Apple totally drops the ball on professionals on the Mac. The Linux desktop is getting pretty good, but it lacks well designed high quality GUI applications. If porting to Linux was done easier…
> I really like Linux as a backup plan, in case Apple totally drops the ball on professionals on the Mac.
Is this a joke, referencing the new MBP releases?
Personally, I've been saying we're there already. I haven't bought a Mac in years. (employers keep giving them to me and I install Ubuntu on them.)
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#47It'll super useful when/if it supports XCode + Mac Developer Tools for iOS development. I think that's the main thing keeping app developers on their Macs.
That simply is not true. Most of the people that likes commodities of UNIX, nice UI and long battery life in combination with nice hardware uses Macs. Even people who do not do any iOS development. There is no such thing as Mac Dev tools, (maybe just iOS related but there aren't many that you do for that process besides Xcode). I use my Mac like I used Linux and FreeBSD, package manager check, nice terminal check, Em…
I use Linux for that. I have a pretty and modern UI, all of the unix commodities I want... all on a brand new and powerful laptop that has plenty of battery life. (My last laptop... a Samsung Series 9... would last 14+ hours on a charge. My current laptop is a bit more power hungry... but it has a fairly beefy i7 and such. It still gets me through the day though)
It's just a matter of momentum... and Apple certainly has that in spades.
I did switch to using MacOS for several years... but am now back on Linux. It's just a better for development for me. But hey... Linux has been my primary workhorse since the 90s... so I am certainly biased. I did give the MacOS bandwagon a try though. :D
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#48Earlier quoted context omitted.
No, Windows had an Unix subsystem since forever, and WSL helps switchers more than ever actually.
And that is related to which part of my post, because I do not see the connection? I didn't mention Windows. And good luck with wrestling with Windows doing UNIX things. It had it, but it was not comparable to Linux and BSDs. Now it is better situation, much better, but still I would rather spin some BSD based system in VM, than try and use Ubuntu through WSL.
My Ubuntu VM hasn't been spun up since I started using WSL. I've encountered a few bugs with WSL but it works amazingly well even for GUI apps.
Re: Darling – MacOS translation layer for Linux
#49I am hoping that with cross platform Swift we can start seeing more libraries to help us port Mac apps to Linux. I am a Mac developer but I'd love to make stuff available on Linux. I really like Linux as a backup plan, in case Apple totally drops the ball on professionals on the Mac. The Linux desktop is getting pretty good, but it lacks well designed high quality GUI applications. If porting to Linux was done easier…
> it lacks well designed high quality GUI applications. If porting to Linux was done easier that could change.
Fundamental to most peoples complaints about desktop Linux applications is the lack of look and feel cohesion across all permutations of distro, desktop, and toolkit.
Wine applications using the Windows APIs look like complete garbage and fit in nowhere. The same would be true of OSX Cocoa apps - they wouldn't mesh well at all, and it would be practically impossible to skin them with toolkit theming.
That, and recent efforts by Gnome and KDE have been producing tons of good new applications with modern GUI. They just aren't all the applications yet.
Re: Darling – MacOS translation layer for Linux
#50I am hoping that with cross platform Swift we can start seeing more libraries to help us port Mac apps to Linux. I am a Mac developer but I'd love to make stuff available on Linux. I really like Linux as a backup plan, in case Apple totally drops the ball on professionals on the Mac. The Linux desktop is getting pretty good, but it lacks well designed high quality GUI applications. If porting to Linux was done easier…
If you're interested in porting code, many of the OSX core libraries are available as part of the GNUstep project: https://www.gnu.org/software/gnustep/
Most of "cocoa" came from the OPENSTEP specification, and GNUstep offers quite a complete implementation.