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Re: MacBook Pro

#41
post #28

I cannot understand how a company like Apple, known and proven to build exceptional hardware, won't let me use my iPhone headset with the new MacBook.

What is an iPhone headset? How does it differ from other headsets? Edit: thank you. Does that mean the female lightning connector would only be used for headphones? Yeah, talk about vendor lockin and connector deprecation.

No lightning jack on the laptop, is what the poster meant.

Re: MacBook Pro

#45
"6th-generation Intel processor"

So in other words it's using Skylake, not Kaby Lake (7th-generation).

No mention of display resolution either, which leads me to believe the 15" model won't feature a 4K display. It's using an unspecified AMD Polaris GPU.

There's also a 13" MBP sans Touch Bar, featuring normal function keys.

Re: MacBook Pro

#46
post #12

(Posted in another thread, that probably will not make it as high as this) I think conceptually this is really neat, but it could potentially suffer from one major flaw: I hardly ever look down at my keyboard. A flat, digital screen containing changing buttons does not cater well to touch typists, of which you can reasonably assume most are who use a macbook pro. Touch ID is sweet though.

You are making the assumption that they care about sophisticated users, and I can't see any evidence that they have for quite a while.

You seem to have conflated sophistication with fear of change. The history of technology shows this fear is misplaced. If the interface provided is compelling, most people will adapt. Some will long for the old ways to be the only ways, but that's never been a segment of desire that gets much attention for what I assume are obvious reasons.

Re: MacBook Pro

#47
Unbelievably unimpressive compared to Microsoft's announcement yesterday, and 45 minutes into the keynote I still have no idea what the specs are.

I don't need some stupid touch strip on my Mac, I need a touch screen.

I haven't been this let down by product announcements ever as I have been this year with everything Apple's done.

Now we get all our standard USB ports removed, very little by way of actual hardware improvements, are we even going to get an upgraded Mac Pro that might meet the minimum 4GB gfx card requirement for Oculus, etc?

I've sworn by Apple products for a decade and a half. I'm done.

Re: MacBook Pro

#48
post #24

The touch bar examples shown are a usability disaster. You're going to hide UI from the screen and make me keep looking at the keyboard to find functionality? I stopped looking at the keyboard every 10 seconds when I learned how to touch type. The presenter spent most of his time looking at the keyboard and not the screen. This gimmick will disappear when Apple decides a touch screen is needed to complete the slow me…

Alas it's probably true. Albeit, maybe with time space memory kicks in if the app uses the bar in order to promote really important "instructions". I didn't see any mention of tactile feedback, which is sad. The idea of a more generic dynamic keyboard will have to wait for a v2, or maybe longer.

Re: MacBook Pro

#49
post #8

I can't get over the ESC key. I need to experience it in order to make a final decision but even though it's "there" the position looks awkward.

Looks like you can program the touchbar to have an esc key.

I keep watching it vanish, though, as other contextual menus overwrite it. Even the terminal "bar" has a contextual menu that will hide it.

Re: MacBook Pro

#50
post #38
post #5

I think the touch bar is gimmicky, but I have to give Apple credit for bucking the trend of hiding UI and making functionality more rather than less visible to users. The trend in the mobile OSs has been to hide more and more functions being hamburger menus (Android), toolbars that only pop up when you tap them (Apple Maps), cryptic flat icons, etc. It's totally undiscoverable. This is the opposite: context-sensitive…

Don't forget the 2014 X1 Carbon had a similar touch strip design that they reverted due to user backlash. It appears that the new MBP has a similar keyboard to the MacBook, if you're an Emacs user, you deserve a better keyboard.

It isn't that similiar. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8L-mIqJW1v0
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