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Most Germans don’t buy their homes, they rent

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Re: Most Germans don’t buy their homes, they rent

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Can somone explain what the article means by: > Germany also loosened regulation of rental caps sooner than many other countries, Does that mean the amount of rent control was deregulated? I thought the rent control here in Germany was pretty strict -- at least in the sense that the landlord can't increase the rent during an existing tenancy.

Rent can be increased, of course, but only within limits. Limits that the tenant must enforce “manually” by going to court.

Re: Most Germans don’t buy their homes, they rent

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It's an interesting article. I'm from Belgium, one of the highest house owners countries. Even though it's true it's a life-long debt and it might be risky (in case of crisis), housing is still considered as a Long Term Investment so that you can pass that investment to your children (after heavy tax deduction :)). I find interesting the article does not mention who actually owns all these houses and who benefits in the long term. After all, renting has a guaranteed zero ROI.

Also, recently, I've been looking at housing market in Munich and it's very very expensive. Renting is ~20% more expensive than in Brussels and acquisition is +100% more expensive. So, although I admit I do not know rest of Germany housing market, I have some troubles thinking why Munich would be more expensive than Brussels. And I certainly miss, from that perspective, why German system would be more interesting.

Re: Most Germans don’t buy their homes, they rent

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I am a German CS-Student and currently renting in a shared flat with 4 other students. We call it WG (living-community) and its really popular not only with students, but i know a lot of young professionals and even middle aged ones that share an apartment (it gained popularity in the 60s, so i think its more of an culture thing that older do not share a flat). If you are in a partnership, you can move out and share…

I've always been the opposite. I can't stand coming home to an apartment filled with people. After dealing with chaos all day, I want to know there's a quiet, tidy place where I can relax. I dislike coming back and having to interact with people.

Re: Most Germans don’t buy their homes, they rent

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I am a German CS-Student and currently renting in a shared flat with 4 other students. We call it WG (living-community) and its really popular not only with students, but i know a lot of young professionals and even middle aged ones that share an apartment (it gained popularity in the 60s, so i think its more of an culture thing that older do not share a flat). If you are in a partnership, you can move out and share…

This is pretty popular in the US. Most recent college graduates I know live in a shared house or apartment.

Re: Most Germans don’t buy their homes, they rent

#45
post #42

It's an interesting article. I'm from Belgium, one of the highest house owners countries. Even though it's true it's a life-long debt and it might be risky (in case of crisis), housing is still considered as a Long Term Investment so that you can pass that investment to your children (after heavy tax deduction :)). I find interesting the article does not mention who actually owns all these houses and who benefits in…

Munich is the most expensive city for property by far, so it's probably not the most representative example.

Re: Most Germans don’t buy their homes, they rent

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On the other hand, many Germans believe: renting is paying someone else, buying is paying yourself (which is nonsense). Especially in more rural areas, buying/building a house is considered a big achievement in life. People are even willing to move from a smaller city to little towns just to be home-owners.

Buying a house can be a net loss over the years, if you're not located in a major city. Especially in East Germany, house prices are declining. See this graphic [1]. Everything yellow basically doesn't yield any returns. Housing prices in orange and red areas decline over the years.

But even in green areas, there are so many knobs you can turn to make buying or renting more feasible than the other. It boils down to lifestyle decision: Do you want to live in your own house or not? If you prefer to rent: Are you willing to save money by other means? Because buying a house works for many people simply because they're forced to "save" a certain percentage of their income every month.

I prefer renting, because of the flexibility. I put quite a bit of money in stocks instead.

[1]: http://cdn3.spiegel.de/images/image-726182-galleryV9-uttw-72...

Re: Most Germans don’t buy their homes, they rent

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I am a German CS-Student and currently renting in a shared flat with 4 other students. We call it WG (living-community) and its really popular not only with students, but i know a lot of young professionals and even middle aged ones that share an apartment (it gained popularity in the 60s, so i think its more of an culture thing that older do not share a flat). If you are in a partnership, you can move out and share…

>Serious question: Why is it not very popular in other countries?

Very popular at least in London due to high rent prices.

Re: Most Germans don’t buy their homes, they rent

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yup. Germany has one of the lowest adoption rates of credit products such as the humble credit card out of nearly all Western nations. Debt is not liked. Edit: From the same site, the linked article at the bottom has the answer: http://qz.com/262595/why-germans-pay-cash-for-almost-everyth... A better link: http://www.businessinsider.com/you-have-to-understand-german...

Never seen credit cards outside of the US/UK/Canada...

They are used all over the world, including in France. Not sure what are you talking about...

Except if you live in some rural area...

Re: Most Germans don’t buy their homes, they rent

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Being German I want to pPoint out that the article leaves out one cruicial detail: Building your own home puts you into debt for quite literally the rest of your life. We do not like debt.

If I am not mistaken the word "debt" either has the same root or derives from the word "sin" in Protestant tradition.

Not so much Protestant tradition as Germanic languages. The German word for debt "Schuld" also means guilt, fault, and blame.

Re: Most Germans don’t buy their homes, they rent

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The only liberty that renting provides is the protection from the whims of the housing market. Aside from that it takes liberties right left and centre. I cannot structure my house and life as I want from painting and shelving through pets and kitchen appliances. I cannot fix something without causing a hassle and days off work. I cannot register a business here. I am at the whim of my landlord. Renting in the UK is…

German renters have a _lot_ more rights than UK ones do. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/expat/expatlife/11417359/Germany-...

Unfortunately they still don't approach those of an owner
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