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Facebook apologises for removing breast cancer awareness video

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Re: Facebook apologises for removing breast cancer awareness video

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Post by 31reasons »

conatico wrote: post #19
protomyth wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The weird thing is I'm around a lot of conservatives in a conservative place in this country, you know, the people who supposedly are the ones getting offended. I haven't found one damn person who thinks Facebook is doing the right thing. I'm really trying to find these offended people, but I cannot. The Vietnam photo censorship was met with quite a bit of confusion since I think most folks misremember it being our h…

The only ones who are offended are the advertisers. As a far right winger, I can't see anything wrong with making sure our women are in good health. :)

Yup our cows and our women should be in good health.

Re: Facebook apologises for removing breast cancer awareness video

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Post by EdHominem »

jacquesm wrote: post #3

Just imagine the harm seeing a breast can do to a vulnerable young child. /s Facebook needs to literally grow up, removing porn is one thing but clinical images, mothers feeding their children and such should not even be up for discussion. It's a fine line between protecting your users from seeing offensive content and outright censorship, good to see them doing the right thing in this case, pity it is still on a 'ca…

They don't need to remove porn though. They could keep a NSFW counter and increment it for every piece of suspected porn you post. If your NSF counter / post count is greater than 0.2, start hiding your posts from people with a low NSFW ratio.

This way, even if they mis-categorize a medical image it won't be banned, just not widely disseminated.

Re: Facebook apologises for removing breast cancer awareness video

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Post by jonlucc »

iamdave wrote: post #31
jwebb99 wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Facebook needs to literally grow up, removing porn is one thing but clinical images, mothers feeding their children and such should not even be up for discussion. But people are offended by seeing clinical images of nudity, mother feeding their babies, etc. And Facebook wants to placate all of their users so nobody has a reason to leave. Of course, they can't please everyone, but they'd rather make a fool of themse…

Why can't those people use the function Facebook designed specifically for this in the first place, the function I use whenever I see some stupid, insipid, high school grade political meme? "Hide this post" I'll take honest answers and snarky ones as well, provided the snarky ones come with a genuine laugh because with this DDoS going on this morning I could REALLY use a chuckle right now..

I'd wager that they might say that once you see the damaging thing, the damage is already done. Therefore, hiding after the fact is not the same for emotionally scarring stuff and silly stuff that is just spammy.

Re: Facebook apologises for removing breast cancer awareness video

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Post by judah »

tomcam wrote: post #43

Good for them. Next: stop the Prager University videos from being suppressed.

I think you're mistaken: it's Google/YouTube that has placed several of the excellent Prager University videos under restricted mode. Not Facebook.

I'm not aware of Facebook suppressing the Prager University videos.

And in the YouTube case, it's likely an automated response to (mis)flagging by users who politically differ.

Re: Facebook apologises for removing breast cancer awareness video

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Post by npiazza83 »

vkou wrote: post #5
codemac wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The main criterion seems to be 'is the internet raising a large enough stink'? If yes then restore the image. That's the same criterion for taking things down though.

Actually, in the best case, the criterion for taking things down is a few people silently and anonymously clicking the report button. In the worst case, it's their NSFW algorithms identifying a nipple in the picture, with no regard for context.

We're still working out the kinks in the male vs. female nipple detection.

Re: Facebook apologises for removing breast cancer awareness video

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Post by mattkrause »

EdHominem wrote: post #42
jacquesm wrote: post #3

Just imagine the harm seeing a breast can do to a vulnerable young child. /s Facebook needs to literally grow up, removing porn is one thing but clinical images, mothers feeding their children and such should not even be up for discussion. It's a fine line between protecting your users from seeing offensive content and outright censorship, good to see them doing the right thing in this case, pity it is still on a 'ca…

They don't need to remove porn though. They could keep a NSFW counter and increment it for every piece of suspected porn you post. If your NSF counter / post count is greater than 0.2, start hiding your posts from people with a low NSFW ratio. This way, even if they mis-categorize a medical image it won't be banned, just not widely disseminated.

Didn't Flickr do something like this? (Once upon a time, before it was re-re-re-re-designed into oblivion)

Re: Facebook apologises for removing breast cancer awareness video

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Post by criddell »

ravenstine wrote: post #26
jacquesm wrote: post #3

Just imagine the harm seeing a breast can do to a vulnerable young child. /s Facebook needs to literally grow up, removing porn is one thing but clinical images, mothers feeding their children and such should not even be up for discussion. It's a fine line between protecting your users from seeing offensive content and outright censorship, good to see them doing the right thing in this case, pity it is still on a 'ca…

Why can't Facebook filter out whatever they want to filter out? I mean, you wouldn't want to see penises all over your feed, and not everyone necessarily agrees with you about the appearance of breasts(except me, I want more breasts on my Facebook), so I can understand why Facebook would make such a decision without necessarily deeming it as wrong. Nobody has to use Facebook. And their main criterion, "is the interne…

> Why can't Facebook filter out whatever they want to filter out?

This isn't about what they can or can't do, it's about what they should or shouldn't do.

The benefits of breast cancer awareness information outweigh any imaginable harm. If you don't want to see it, then you certainly don't have to.

Re: Facebook apologises for removing breast cancer awareness video

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Post by clort »

vkou wrote: post #5
codemac wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The main criterion seems to be 'is the internet raising a large enough stink'? If yes then restore the image. That's the same criterion for taking things down though.

Actually, in the best case, the criterion for taking things down is a few people silently and anonymously clicking the report button. In the worst case, it's their NSFW algorithms identifying a nipple in the picture, with no regard for context.

just btw it would not be anonymous.

If you are on facebook, you are logged into facebook, and they track every click.

Re: Facebook apologises for removing breast cancer awareness video

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Post by [deleted] »

lukasm wrote: post #7
jacquesm wrote: post #3

Just imagine the harm seeing a breast can do to a vulnerable young child. /s Facebook needs to literally grow up, removing porn is one thing but clinical images, mothers feeding their children and such should not even be up for discussion. It's a fine line between protecting your users from seeing offensive content and outright censorship, good to see them doing the right thing in this case, pity it is still on a 'ca…

P0rn is illegal in many countries. Facebook wants to do business in these countries, hence aggressive filtering and minimum liability.

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