Fuck You Startup World • Hacker News Board

Re: Fuck You Startup World

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Post by ixtli » Tue, Oct 11, 2016, 6:27 PM UTC

dasil003 wrote: post #32

tomc1985 wrote: post #27

Hoping this is the vanguard for a new rebellion against toxic SV-style startup culture, and the nitwits that propagate it

Toxic SV culture is ripe for parody, but words won't stop it. What will stop it is when the money stops flowing so easily and the wider economy improves so that it's no longer the place to be for the greedy. Not sure I see both those things happening any time soon, in the meantime Tech is sadly the new Finance.

Or, we (engineers) could all take a cue from workers of the past and organize to demand an end to abusive labor practices.

Seriously guys, just because we're making 10x the salary of a miner doesn't mean we're not also generating 100x the money for our employers without being allowed to take part in decisions that effect our lives.

Re: Fuck You Startup World

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Post by julian25 » Tue, Oct 11, 2016, 6:28 PM UTC

Look, I get the issues with startup culture but this guy doesn't offer any reasonable suggestions on how to fix them and just uses his Medium soapbox to throw a tantrum. If you want things to change, writing an article with 35 "fucks" is not the way to do it.

Re: Fuck You Startup World

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Post by _vya7 » Tue, Oct 11, 2016, 6:29 PM UTC

zethraeus wrote: post #35

fuck your anger. :)

Sometimes anger is justified. And sometimes it calls for a good venting. Sometimes it even calls for a little activism. And sometimes all of these are just futile, because richer people are in control of what you see and hear, who have interest in keeping their pockets full using the hard work of young impressionable kids who don't know the real value of their own time. It's sickening, and the anger is justified. The rant is probably going to be forgotten tomorrow though, and unfortunately won't save a single soul from the startup world.

Re: Fuck You Startup World

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Post by bmelton » Tue, Oct 11, 2016, 6:29 PM UTC

The only takeaway for me is the wondering whether or not the author really thinks you can't read a book a week. I mean, yeah, you have to make time to read the books, but an average length book takes something like 6-8 hours to read, so if you allocate an hour a day (which I maintain is worth doing), you're generally going to be able to comfortably knock out a book a week.

Sure, you're not churning through War & Peace every week, but for regular books, it's really not that hard.

Re: Fuck You Startup World

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Post by 6stringmerc » Tue, Oct 11, 2016, 6:29 PM UTC

_vya7 wrote: post #34

He either completely misses the point, or completely gets it. Every single one of these "benefits" are very well thought out and calculated shams meant to deceive and manipulate impressionable kids into working insane hours for less than a realistic living wage. That's the whole point. It's just like that circus in the Pinocchio movie.

Not quite as exploitative as the music industry prefers to behave in pursuit of profits, but I concur the general top-down structuring of environments like that is not particularly an accident. Like hard seats in a fast food restaurant - they're not supposed to make you want to stay for an extended period of time, in theory.

Re: Fuck You Startup World

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Post by mattdeboard » Tue, Oct 11, 2016, 6:31 PM UTC

Hey I like my standing desk :(

it's one of the automatic deals and has presets and --

i don't even eat doritos

Re: Fuck You Startup World

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Post by IceyEC » Tue, Oct 11, 2016, 6:33 PM UTC

kbenson wrote: post #40

CobrastanJorji wrote: post #36

> Fuck your crazy work hours. Yeah! > Fuck you drinking culture too. Yeah! > Fuck your open space floor plans Yeah! > Fuck the transparency trend, the post mortem and the 5 whys. Yea---wait, what? Those other things are reasonable complaints, but wondering why things go wrong and trying to stop them from going wrong for the same reason tomorrow is, you know, good.

Shh, they're on a roll. :)

I first read that as "Shh, they're on a troll"

Re: Fuck You Startup World

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Post by NickBusey » Tue, Oct 11, 2016, 6:33 PM UTC

I feel like most of the people commenting here missed the closing line.

> But more than all, start-up world, fuck you for making me one of you.

Re: Fuck You Startup World

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Post by cwyers » Tue, Oct 11, 2016, 6:34 PM UTC

> Fuck reading a book a week. No one can read that fast. Let me repeat that -NO ONE CAN FUCKING READ THAT FAST. How about actually reading that god damn book?!

What the hell are you even talking about? Can't read one book a week?

Re: Fuck You Startup World

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Post by kbenson » Tue, Oct 11, 2016, 6:34 PM UTC

BowBun wrote: post #37

Meh. I could write this same post about the corporate world stereotypes, but that would be dumb. This person has a problem with healthy people, fat people, people who have an interest in their field, people who work hard and overachieve, just an absurd breadth of random adjectives and interests that make people unique. It just seems like they wish everyone was the same so they wouldn't be compared to the tons of peop…

Maybe we need a HN edition.

Fuck you HN, and your overly critical and serious comments complaining about how the article isn't new, isn't cool, isn't specific enough.

Fuck you HN for feeling the need to comment just to get your voice out there, just to put something down, just so you can add your snide remark at the end to prove your own intelligence to your peers.

And fuck me, for doing all of the above in pointing that out.