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Apple Responds to Dash Controversy

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Re: Apple Responds to Dash Controversy

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What if the fake reviews were paid for by a competitor, so they would get banned?

What if Apple just happened to be smart enough to think of the most obvious, very first question that would need to be asked in this situation?

People do this thing with research papers ("the researchers were stupid and didn't think of ") -- so they wouldn't think twice (pun intended) about doing it with a new story.

Re: Apple Responds to Dash Controversy

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unfortunately The Loop isn't much of a news site, more of a controlled Apple leak blog. Dalrymple has gotten to the point of being a complete Apple shill. Edit: Compare the tone of the Loop article to Daring Fireballs: http://daringfireball.net/2016/10/apple_dash_controversy Gruber takes a much more unbiased approach, supported well. The Loop article reads like a statement from the Principal read by your teacher.

Translation: he likes Apple products and is open about it, whereas I don't.

I love apple products, have for 31 years but the guy is pretty biased towards Apple. He writes some interesting stuff but this article for instance is basically just repeating back whatever their PR flack said.

Re: Apple Responds to Dash Controversy

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So if you want to get your competitor banned from the App store, just post lots of spammy positive reviews for their product? How would you defend your app against such an attack?

While I don't know how their rating system or detection works, I imagine it would be harder than just posting spammy positive reviews. They would have to have solid evidence that you're doing it to your own app, or paying someone to do it on your behalf.

I hope that's the case... It would make sense, since this doesn't appear to be an action Apple has taken on a regular basis.

Re: Apple Responds to Dash Controversy

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So, now we have a "He Said; She Said" situation. Who do we trust? Apple? They've made mistakes before, and need to protect their integrity. The Dash developer? It's in his best interests to paint himself in the best light.

What's worse, by coming out, the Dash developer has forced Apple into a defensive position, ensuring that Dash will never appear on iOS again. Dash has now lost revenue and exposure opportunities, and Apple's consumers are reminded once again that they don't have the right to control their devices.

Both sides want to come out of this looking good, and right now neither side does.

Re: Apple Responds to Dash Controversy

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Well that's definitely strange. Why would the developer do such a thing when Dash is basically the best app of its kind out there? Edit: To other commenters, why would Apple accuse the dev of faking reviews if it wasn't true? I don't see Apple getting anything out of it.

According to Gruber[1], it's not Dash itself, but it's the apps that the developer had created on his other accounts.

[1]: http://daringfireball.net/2016/10/apple_dash_controversy

Re: Apple Responds to Dash Controversy

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So if you want to get your competitor banned from the App store, just post lots of spammy positive reviews for their product? How would you defend your app against such an attack?

I would recommend responding to Apple when they attempt to contact you. It appears that this developer did not do that.

It also sounds like he didn't get those attempts. It's easy to assume good faith on the part of both parties here.

Re: Apple Responds to Dash Controversy

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post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Translation: he likes Apple products and is open about it, whereas I don't.

I love apple products, have for 31 years but the guy is pretty biased towards Apple. He writes some interesting stuff but this article for instance is basically just repeating back whatever their PR flack said.

And what if he believes it?

I have little reason to doubt that Dash really posted lots of fake reviews. It's not like Apple goes and accuses people of that all the time...

Re: Apple Responds to Dash Controversy

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post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unfortunately The Loop isn't much of a news site, more of a controlled Apple leak blog. Dalrymple has gotten to the point of being a complete Apple shill. Edit: Compare the tone of the Loop article to Daring Fireballs: http://daringfireball.net/2016/10/apple_dash_controversy Gruber takes a much more unbiased approach, supported well. The Loop article reads like a statement from the Principal read by your teacher.

Translation: he likes Apple products and is open about it, whereas I don't.

Nope, I'm a huge Apple guy, just don't care for The Loop at all.

Re: Apple Responds to Dash Controversy

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What if the fake reviews were paid for by a competitor, so they would get banned?

What if Apple just happened to be smart enough to think of the most obvious, very first question that would need to be asked in this situation?

That would be wonderful. Do you have any evidence that this is the case?

I mean, we are talking about the same company that just a few years back subjected all iPhone developers to such a strict NDA that they were technically not allowed to discuss a WWDC panel they were watching with the person sitting next to them.

Re: Apple Responds to Dash Controversy

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I'm not familiar with this site, so this might be ignorant, but it seems strange. Bad copy on a wordpress site. At first is looks pretty official, but none of the "according to Apple" or "Apparently" quotes are cited or linked. Did Apple release a statement or press release about this? At the end it just says "it seems to me...". Who is this guy? Do we have a better source for this news?

This is Jim Dalrymple's site (I might have the spelling wrong). He is well-known among Apple bloggers to be well connected to Apple people. I've seen sites like MacRumors use a "Yep." confirmation from Dalrymple as evidence of a rumor, so I guess folks have some reason to believe he's connected.
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