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Mumbai call centre scam: ‘Nothing's wrong in duping rich Americans’

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Re: Mumbai call centre scam: ‘Nothing's wrong in duping rich Americans’

#41
post #36

This could be fixed by fixing the broken telephone protocol so that phone numbers can't be spoofed so easily, and then implementing adblockers. But that won't happen because: 1. It would cost money. 2. A proper implementation would be encrypted, breaking ubiquitous surveillance.

Twilio has built up their business around the current phone system.

Re: Mumbai call centre scam: ‘Nothing's wrong in duping rich Americans’

#42

I'll get downvoted, but if I'm a father with no opportunity in rural India. This is exactly what I'd be doing. You might be a better man to allow your children starve in a pile of there own filth, but I'm not him.

Leave the country? Don't have children if you can't legitimately take care of them? There's so many things a 'better man' father would have done before it got to this point.

Re: Mumbai call centre scam: ‘Nothing's wrong in duping rich Americans’

#43
post #24

This seems like a case where none of the alleged criminals have probably ever interacted with Americans. It's easy to vilify a group you truly know nothing about.

Are you possibly doing the same with this group? Would you be willing to prey on Russians if it meant your family could eat this week?

> Are you possibly doing the same with this group?

Do you mind expanding your reasoning on that? I'm not sure how you came to that conclusion. The modifier "alleged" was even used, so I don't see much vilification going on.

Re: Mumbai call centre scam: ‘Nothing's wrong in duping rich Americans’

#44
post #36

This could be fixed by fixing the broken telephone protocol so that phone numbers can't be spoofed so easily, and then implementing adblockers. But that won't happen because: 1. It would cost money. 2. A proper implementation would be encrypted, breaking ubiquitous surveillance.

Twilio has built up their business around the current phone system.

I'm not sure what you're trying to say here.

Re: Mumbai call centre scam: ‘Nothing's wrong in duping rich Americans’

#45
post #10
post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In a nutshell: people trained with American accents made calls to American taxpayers suggesting that they owed backtaxes and would be sued if they didn't pay up.

I got one of those calls and it sounded very credible. I called the number back and then I got a little nervous when the guy on the other end of the line seemed very uninterested and unprofessional. I don't how how far I would have gone if he had acted better.

> I don't how how far I would have gone if he had acted better.

You probably would have figured it out as soon as they told you that you could settle your IRS debt with iTunes gift cards.

Re: Mumbai call centre scam: ‘Nothing's wrong in duping rich Americans’

#46
post #29

Unfortunately it's not so much the 'rich' that fall for this, but the elderly. Recently heard this story from my bartender, who had a family member lose some dough in this scam. The "rich American" part is just a weaselly justification for committing a crime, and doesn't deserve the prominence in the article it received.

I imagine the average wage in America is much, much higher than the average wage in India.

I interpreted it not as rich Americans specifically, but rather that America as a whole is much richer than India.

Re: Mumbai call centre scam: ‘Nothing's wrong in duping rich Americans’

#47
post #24

This seems like a case where none of the alleged criminals have probably ever interacted with Americans. It's easy to vilify a group you truly know nothing about.

Are you possibly doing the same with this group? Would you be willing to prey on Russians if it meant your family could eat this week?

What group?

Re: Mumbai call centre scam: ‘Nothing's wrong in duping rich Americans’

#48
post #21

On one hand, it'a easy to see this as an educational and cultural failure. On the other hand, many of our policies treat screwing over foreigners more lightly than screwing over fellow Americans.

That is a fundamental part of being human. Anyone who thinks they or their culture is immune to it is deluding themselves. Anyone who thinks they or their culture is better at it than others needs to tread carefully, because the part of the very meme we're talking about here is about how your culture is better at things than others, so isn't it kinda convenient that one thinks so?

> That is a fundamental part of being human.

So true. it's turtles all the way down, too. Those liberals/conservatives aren't real Americans and don't have good values, like us conservatives/liberals. Those people in the city next door are all either snobs or criminals, lets try to keep them from coming to our town too much. That high school across town sucks and their students are assholes, we're better, let's go vandalize their school to show them. Our neighbors are horrible people, so it's okay that we're mean to them.

Re: Mumbai call centre scam: ‘Nothing's wrong in duping rich Americans’

#49
post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Twilio has built up their business around the current phone system.

I'm not sure what you're trying to say here.

The very things identified as problems when it comes to scam calls have enabled tons of startups and software.

Re: Mumbai call centre scam: ‘Nothing's wrong in duping rich Americans’

#50

I like to have fun with them. On more than one occasion, I strung them out for 15 or 20 minutes, and eventually ended the call on a nice satisfying note. I've even had them call me back angry for wasting their time :-)

I talked in a heavy voice with calm sort of arrogance, and they go . My attempts at gaming them into wasting time didn't work for too long. :(

I just play dumb.
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