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Re: RethinkDB is shutting down

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Post by jgord »

I just want to personally thank Slava for his exceptional work over the past few years - at every step him and his team have been classy and professional, and brought real creativity and intelligence to the world of databases and startups.

Its clear to me that Rethink is the model for future databases - its just that DBs have a long gestation as no-one wants to risk their data until the code is aged like a fine wine. Its an important longterm technology play - just the kind we need to improve things for all of us.

In two or three years I think they would be making money, I think this is a failure of capitalism or imagination our HN/SV community.

To those several of us who have the power to write a check, please consider doing so, Rethink have been relentlessly building the future [ and you will make money ]

Re: RethinkDB is shutting down

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Post by djsumdog »

Haven't played with it, but everyone about RethinkDB looks positive. Hopefully it will continue to develop in the open source community.

There are so many projects that really need attention to keep open source growing. I started looking at what I could do for IRCv3 projects recently because I'd really like to support an open source alternative to Slack.

Re: RethinkDB is shutting down

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Post by guessmyname »

joneholland wrote: post #3

A shame that a company like mongo can exist while a company like rethink folds.

I believe this is because the Node.JS community still recommends MongoDB as the perfect database engine for their projects. There is even a name for their stack — MEAN, MondoDB + Express.JS + Angular.JS + Node.JS — which is kind of ironic because considering the rapid evolution of the JavaScript ecosystem having an acronym like that will make no sense in a couple of months since now people prefer React-like libraries / frameworks. Besides the JavaScript community I don't know of any other that enjoys to use MongoDB — which to be fair it's not that bad for what it offers, but you know — or ships it by default in bundle installers which are preferred by many young and/or newbie developers.

Re: RethinkDB is shutting down

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Post by dcwca »

brianwawok wrote: post #34
nine_k wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is why the key product should be open-source. Else it's too scary to invest in it: what if the company behind it folds, and you end up in a dead end? Only certain super-behemoths like Microsoft or Apple can afford to have their infrastructure products being closed-source.

How many people in the world can work on a large DB, even with source? I am all for open source, but it doesn't make things like this is easy as some make it out to be. For example with Linux source, how long would it take me to fix a video driver bug? Perhaps a year?

I hope it wouldn't take you a year to hire someone qualified to fix it for you.

Re: RethinkDB is shutting down

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Post by statictype »

nine_k wrote: post #24
aeharding wrote: post #16

Very sad to hear, but hopefully the software will continue to be developed in an open source format. Keep this in mind when you invest in a certain technology: some organizations, especially nonprofits (for example, the Apache Software Foundation, Python Software Foundation, the new Node Foundation) are probably going to support and develop their software for extended periods of time relative to, say, a startup or fo…

This is why the key product should be open-source. Else it's too scary to invest in it: what if the company behind it folds, and you end up in a dead end? Only certain super-behemoths like Microsoft or Apple can afford to have their infrastructure products being closed-source.

It works the opposite way too.

If a project is open source then who is committed to helping you support and maintain it? You essentially need to have a team to do it.

If there's a company behind it, it gives you assurances.

Especially for a small company that needs to focus on building a product rather than committing features and bug fixes to their database

Re: RethinkDB is shutting down

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Post by pc »

RethinkDB is one of the developer tools that we at Stripe most looked up to.[1] The team had so many good ideas and rigorous, creative thoughts around what a database could be and how it should work. I'm really bummed that it didn't work out for them and have enormous respect for the tenacity of their effort.

I'm also excited to have them join us here at Stripe. As we've gotten to know Mike, Slava, and the other Rethinks -- and shared some of our plans with them and gotten their feedback -- we've become pretty convinced that we can build some excellent products together in the future. I'm looking forward to learning from all of them.

[1] (And, for me, even before Stripe -- I started learning Haskell with Slava's Lisp-interpreter-in-Haskell tutorial back in 2006... http://www.defmacro.org/ramblings/lisp-in-haskell.html)

Re: RethinkDB is shutting down

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Post by silasb »

Wow, I've always used RethinkDB for toy DB stuff here and there, but nothing serious. I loved how well everything was put together, from the documentation to the homepage. Hopefully the project can live with OSS contributions.
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