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Samsung acquires Viv, a next-gen AI assistant built by creators of Apple’s Siri

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Re: Samsung acquires Viv, a next-gen AI assistant built by creators of Apple’s Siri

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Viv still uses Nuance according to their last demo, viv seems to be just a developers platform. Even Siri does not use Nuance anymore. Samsung probably needs developers for their IoT products in order to compete.

Pixel's new assistant will not be available on other android devices with nougat so make sense that Samsung will have to bundle their own into their devices.

Re: Samsung acquires Viv, a next-gen AI assistant built by creators of Apple’s Siri

#42

Unfortunately I think it's pretty obvious why they were acquired, so 99% skeptical of their future. They were probably acquired because: 1. They realized just owning the software platform is very limiting (For example they can't compete with Apple no matter how good they are. Just look at Google maps. Thousand times better than the default Apple maps but will never be #1 map app on iOS because people always choose th…

> Thousand times better than the default Apple maps

"Better" is subjective. I used Google Maps since it was released on iOS. I recently switched to Apple for a perceived privacy benefit.

Re: Samsung acquires Viv, a next-gen AI assistant built by creators of Apple’s Siri

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post #14

This is going to be great, The worlds top firms are now in direct competition with each other. Microsoft(Cortana), Amazon(Echo), Apple(Siri), Google(Assistant/Now) and now Samsung with Viv. The possibilites are just endless, the space race netted us a lot of innovation and this should do the same. Competition leads to Innovation

Competition is for losers. 10 years ago the battle was microsoft vs yahoo and whoever...and it turned out the ones to pay attention to were fb and twtr...etc. The big innovation, the one to dominate headlines in 10 years, is likely unknown, run by a few guys on a shoestring and barely on the radar right now.

Re: Samsung acquires Viv, a next-gen AI assistant built by creators of Apple’s Siri

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post #6

Make AI startup, get acquired, quit, repeat

As long as the founder(s) know what they're doing. I've seen way too many AI startups with founders who don't even have the most basic ML knowledge but are doing it because it's the trend.

Replace "ML knowledge" with "CS / SW Eng. knowledge" and I would say this has always existed in the start-up world. My personal opinion is that lack of basic technical knowledge is a major no-no unless at least one of the other co-founders is technical.

Re: Samsung acquires Viv, a next-gen AI assistant built by creators of Apple’s Siri

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post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Just look at Google maps. Thousand times better than the default Apple maps No it isn't, they are basically the same for 90% of users.

I wish apple gave me a fair choice. I do prefer Google maps but i keep also using stupid apple maps because it keeps coming up.

I agree but but worry at this point that it would be viewed as conceding to Google. My problem with iOS has always been the forced integrations you cannot decouple.

Re: Samsung acquires Viv, a next-gen AI assistant built by creators of Apple’s Siri

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post #37

The AI platform that wins won't necessarily be the one that provides the most utility. It'll be the one that people bond with emotionally. I'm not talking about you here- I'm talking about teenage girls with self esteem issues, recently landed immigrants working as night janitors, divorcees with drinking problems, and anyone else who needs a friend. It's a technical challenge now, but in a few years making a good AI…

I agree I think the next evolution is a relationship with the AI. We are at a point where with enough effort and data these AI can answer your questions and preemptively tell you thinks that are relevant.

If someone can build something you grow empathy and compassion for it will most certainly be a winner.

Re: Samsung acquires Viv, a next-gen AI assistant built by creators of Apple’s Siri

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post #24

It's very disappointing that Apple got stuck with Siri and does not really improve on what they have. I assume part of it has to do with the fact that they are very careful about customer data and a lot of what makes assistants useful is having as much data in the cloud as possible. Still. As an iOS user I'm very jealous of what exists on other platforms now.

Siri has been getting better ever since its release. Have you used it in iOS 10? It now has 3rd party integration with Uber and Lyft, Venmo, and many other apps. Its reliability and usability have drastically improved since Siri 1.0 on the iPhone 4S.

And yet, the simplest interactions always disappoint me. I said "Create an appointment with John Smith at 2PM tomorrow". John Smith being someone who isn't in my contacts. Siri presented me with a list of my contacts that she thought I might have meant. The option "None of these" was also presented. I chose that, thinking she would just create the appointment with John Smith in the title as plain text like I wanted, and she said "All right, I'll leave it off your calendar" and that was that.

Re: Samsung acquires Viv, a next-gen AI assistant built by creators of Apple’s Siri

#48

Unfortunately I think it's pretty obvious why they were acquired, so 99% skeptical of their future. They were probably acquired because: 1. They realized just owning the software platform is very limiting (For example they can't compete with Apple no matter how good they are. Just look at Google maps. Thousand times better than the default Apple maps but will never be #1 map app on iOS because people always choose th…

> Also, now even Google is moving towards owning their own hardware platform

Microsoft is also taking the same approach with Surface tablets, Surface books and upcoming Surface phones

Re: Samsung acquires Viv, a next-gen AI assistant built by creators of Apple’s Siri

#49
Does anyone else have the feeling that the ecosystem lock-in inherent in all of these large primarily hardware-focused companies isn't necessarily the whole future? I can imagine things like airport kiosks, coffee machines, subway terminals, hotel front desks, and other everyday objects or conglomerations of objects that aren't part of the consumer market most of these companies target also having such an interface, and they may not want to give all of that to Google or Amazon for instance.

Making that software seems like a necessity to me (the "operating system" of the future) and I'm not sure how it fits in with the current trajectory. Thoughts?

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