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Are RethinkDB and Horizon abandoned?
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Re: Are RethinkDB and Horizon abandoned?
#42Slava @ RethinkDB here. I am not able to get into details yet, but the short version is that the commercial entity behind RethinkDB is shutting down. We're working on continuity for the open-source project. Full announcement (and details) coming in a day or two.
I hate to wish bad fortune on anyone, but I hope that you're shutting down rather than an acqui-hire. I'm sure that there's enough interest in RethinkDB that most of your individual devs can make a good living developing and doing support for RethinkDB either as contractors or employees elsewhere. I believe that RethinkDB has enough traction that switching to a foundation model will be good for the product.
Re: Are RethinkDB and Horizon abandoned?
#43Don't want to be accused of being a shill (I'm not, I'm just a fan), but if you're looking for potential alternatives to RethinkDB, Couchbase (the company that was formed when the MemcacheD and CouchDB folks joined forces) offer a totally open source realtime-sync API/SDK (cross-platform: mobile, web, you name it).
Link: http://www.couchbase.com/nosql-databases/couchbase-mobile
Re: Are RethinkDB and Horizon abandoned?
#44Don't want to be accused of being a shill (I'm not, I'm just a fan), but if you're looking for potential alternatives to RethinkDB, Couchbase (the company that was formed when the MemcacheD and CouchDB folks joined forces) offer a totally open source realtime-sync API/SDK (cross-platform: mobile, web, you name it). Link: http://www.couchbase.com/nosql-databases/couchbase-mobile
Couchbase is a very very different product under the hood. Be aware you have to run Couchbase with their minimum spec cluster requirements ( 3 nodes, tons of CPU and RAM ) just to ensure you don't lose data because it syncs from ram to disk at best every 100ms
Re: Are RethinkDB and Horizon abandoned?
#45Slava @ RethinkDB here. I am not able to get into details yet, but the short version is that the commercial entity behind RethinkDB is shutting down. We're working on continuity for the open-source project. Full announcement (and details) coming in a day or two.
Slava: As the commercial strategy is over, please release everything under a very liberal open source license rather than AGPL (the current RethinkDB license). Please. I have invested so much in building on RethinkDB, and you can't just will a genuine open source community into existence without giving them the power that comes with a liberal license. Honestly, right now I'm evaluating how I can rewrite everything I've built to not use RethinkDB, which will take me months of fulltime work...
Re: Are RethinkDB and Horizon abandoned?
#46Slava @ RethinkDB here. I am not able to get into details yet, but the short version is that the commercial entity behind RethinkDB is shutting down. We're working on continuity for the open-source project. Full announcement (and details) coming in a day or two.
Slava: As the commercial strategy is over, please release everything under a very liberal open source license rather than AGPL (the current RethinkDB license). Please. I have invested so much in building on RethinkDB, and you can't just will a genuine open source community into existence without giving them the power that comes with a liberal license. Honestly, right now I'm evaluating how I can rewrite everything I'…
I really, really, hope that's why they've gone quiet, that they're minimising disruptions while they're re-licensing to a more liberal license while transferring ownership to a foundation.
Re: Are RethinkDB and Horizon abandoned?
#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
On the contrary, I would say that enterprises should take the risk and use such projects. They likely have enough capital to hire the correct people (e.g. one of the core devs) when a problem shows up. Startups can't afford that. Therefore they should use older technology until they grow big enough to tank the damage.
Can't say I would want to depend on being able to hire one of the few devs from the core team as my contingency plan in a high risk situation. Precisely because they are fat and have a lot of money to throw around - that leaves room for inefficiency and getting squeezed by Oracle and the likes in exchange for covering their ass. Didn't the same problem happen to the CloudFlare with LuaJIT where they would like to hir…
Nope, it didn't. CloudFlare is listed https://luajit.org/sponsors.html here.
Re: Are RethinkDB and Horizon abandoned?
#48Earlier quoted context omitted.
Can't say I would want to depend on being able to hire one of the few devs from the core team as my contingency plan in a high risk situation. Precisely because they are fat and have a lot of money to throw around - that leaves room for inefficiency and getting squeezed by Oracle and the likes in exchange for covering their ass. Didn't the same problem happen to the CloudFlare with LuaJIT where they would like to hir…
Nope, it didn't. CloudFlare is listed https://luajit.org/sponsors.html here.
Sure but they are still trying to hire someone with direct experience working on LuaJIT and failed to recruit prominent community members from what I read around here.
Re: Are RethinkDB and Horizon abandoned?
#49Why has this been marked dupe? What is it a dupe of - I don't see any other story on the front page about this?
Re: Are RethinkDB and Horizon abandoned?
#50Don't want to be accused of being a shill (I'm not, I'm just a fan), but if you're looking for potential alternatives to RethinkDB, Couchbase (the company that was formed when the MemcacheD and CouchDB folks joined forces) offer a totally open source realtime-sync API/SDK (cross-platform: mobile, web, you name it). Link: http://www.couchbase.com/nosql-databases/couchbase-mobile
Ehh, on the Memcached side it was a few contributors (including two major ones, iirc). They're great engineers, but I don't think it's accurate to call them "the Memcached folks".
As far as I know, Memcached's longtime maintainer / primary contributor (dormando) is not involved with Couchbase, and neither is Memcached's original creator (bradfitz).