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Re: New lower Azure pricing

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post #36

Cloud Pricing is ridiculous ... made the comparison between a dedicated server and cloud offerings of microsoft, google, amazon ... rackspace (SO EXPENSIVE) and you pay 5 times in the cloud for the same.

Yes, but cloud scales in a way dedicated servers simply cannot. I agree that a lot of people use cloud when they shouldn't, but there are a number of cases where it remains very relevant.

Not "cannot" - just "easier" :)

Re: New lower Azure pricing

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post #36

Cloud Pricing is ridiculous ... made the comparison between a dedicated server and cloud offerings of microsoft, google, amazon ... rackspace (SO EXPENSIVE) and you pay 5 times in the cloud for the same.

Yes, but cloud scales in a way dedicated servers simply cannot. I agree that a lot of people use cloud when they shouldn't, but there are a number of cases where it remains very relevant.

Dedicated scales in a way that cloud cannot: vertically.

Want to build a 1TB DDR4 RAM beast with 40 cores? Yeah, you can do that with dedicated.

Re: New lower Azure pricing

#43

Cloud Pricing is ridiculous ... made the comparison between a dedicated server and cloud offerings of microsoft, google, amazon ... rackspace (SO EXPENSIVE) and you pay 5 times in the cloud for the same.

We're moving to AWS for our next release, managed by Rackspace. Had the same philosophy as you for years, and have saved a lot of money with DIY (maybe in the tens of thousands).

Turns out server admin is not my skillset, and it's caused problems, headaches and risks in the past.

I consider the additional cost going forwards in effect as our next hire and an important one. For small startups looking to save money DIY can be a good option, but moving onto the cloud at a later date can be a big burden.

Re: New lower Azure pricing

#44

Cloud Pricing is ridiculous ... made the comparison between a dedicated server and cloud offerings of microsoft, google, amazon ... rackspace (SO EXPENSIVE) and you pay 5 times in the cloud for the same.

We're moving to AWS for our next release, managed by Rackspace. Had the same philosophy as you for years, and have saved a lot of money with DIY (maybe in the tens of thousands). Turns out server admin is not my skillset, and it's caused problems, headaches and risks in the past. I consider the additional cost going forwards in effect as our next hire and an important one. For small startups looking to save money DIY…

You still need a server admin, cloud or not. It's not like there's a magic button in the cloud that replaces an admin.

Re: New lower Azure pricing

#45
post #28
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I don't have any experience with Azure. Are prices competitive with AWS?

Also, there's nobody to contact at Microsoft regarding Azure billing. I was prototyping some app that used App Service, Document DB, and Notification Hub and for a few months they billed at around $10 - $20, all of a sudden it's $1,200 for a month. The app was not launched, I was the only user. There's no way to figure out why other than it's a DocumentDB charge. There's no way I'd put anything in production with Azu…

If you can PM askdocdb at Microsoft and share details on your subscription, we can take a look and help you. Thanks

Re: New lower Azure pricing

#46
post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, but cloud scales in a way dedicated servers simply cannot. I agree that a lot of people use cloud when they shouldn't, but there are a number of cases where it remains very relevant.

Dedicated scales in a way that cloud cannot: vertically. Want to build a 1TB DDR4 RAM beast with 40 cores? Yeah, you can do that with dedicated.

https://aws.amazon.com/ec2/instance-types/x1/

Re: New lower Azure pricing

#47

Cloud Pricing is ridiculous ... made the comparison between a dedicated server and cloud offerings of microsoft, google, amazon ... rackspace (SO EXPENSIVE) and you pay 5 times in the cloud for the same.

What comparison? Can I simply ask the colo for a brand new dedicated server every time the machine dies or I want to do a new release? Do they offer services to provision, start, and load balance to new dedicated servers when the ones I have are at high utilization?

No? They don't? Maybe that's because you're comparing fundamentally different things that are only superficially similar to each other.

Re: New lower Azure pricing

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post #41
post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, but cloud scales in a way dedicated servers simply cannot. I agree that a lot of people use cloud when they shouldn't, but there are a number of cases where it remains very relevant.

Not "cannot" - just "easier" :)

I do releases by baking a new virtual machine with the code+config built in and booting it. I guess it's possible to do that on real hardware, but calling it simply "harder" borders on disingenuous.

Re: New lower Azure pricing

#49
post #47

Cloud Pricing is ridiculous ... made the comparison between a dedicated server and cloud offerings of microsoft, google, amazon ... rackspace (SO EXPENSIVE) and you pay 5 times in the cloud for the same.

What comparison? Can I simply ask the colo for a brand new dedicated server every time the machine dies or I want to do a new release? Do they offer services to provision, start, and load balance to new dedicated servers when the ones I have are at high utilization? No? They don't? Maybe that's because you're comparing fundamentally different things that are only superficially similar to each other.

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