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YouTube Go: YouTube reimagined for the next generation of YouTube viewers

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Re: YouTube Go: YouTube reimagined for the next generation of YouTube viewers

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Post by ultramancool »

JoshTriplett wrote: post #39
ultramancool wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Try NewPipe, it's an open source YouTube downloader and background player for Android: https://f-droid.org/repository/browse/?fdid=org.schabi.newpi...

Looks promising. Doesn't seem to support subscriptions, though, which is the problem every unofficial YouTube app seems to have. Probably because logging in and accessing subscriptions requires the API, which has a ToS.

Yeah, the XBMC Youtube addon used to do subscriptions and the like, it was pretty nice, but I think it broke and the main developer abandoned it. Youtube-dl does support channels and resuming though so you could fairly easily just set up a cron job and use syncthing to get the videos onto your phone. No pretty GUI for that though.

Re: YouTube Go: YouTube reimagined for the next generation of YouTube viewers

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Post by mintplant »

amelius wrote: post #37

The next generation will want to download the video and store it, just in case it gets pulled because of content owner rights.

I already do this with everything online that matters to me. `wget -r`, HTTrack, and youtube-dl are great tools.

Re: YouTube Go: YouTube reimagined for the next generation of YouTube viewers

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Post by executesorder66 »

thampiman wrote: post #18
jkot wrote: post #6

I think this is great idea. Many users are watching youtube offline.

Do you have any stats on youtube usage? Personally I don't use the offline feature very much.

A lot of people still have shitty, unreliable, expensive, and/or very limited internet connection. This is great for all of them.

Re: YouTube Go: YouTube reimagined for the next generation of YouTube viewers

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Post by dragonwriter »

ksk wrote: post #40
dragonwriter wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I don't understand why a new app if this could just be an additional feature in the current app. Its a ground-up rewrite of the app with a very different experience focus and for a different audience. It wouldn't make much sense as a feature of the existing app.

But why would it need a rewrite? Adding a download and some other buttons? >It wouldn't make much sense as a feature of the existing app. Why?

> But why would it need a rewrite?

Because the UX focus is different, the assumed technical infrastructure context is different, and, well, basically everything except the backend service consumed is different. Youtube Go is more distinct in role from the core Youtube app than the other break out apps (which mostly are distinguished by content focus on UX tweaks around the focal content) like Youtube Kids, Youtube Music, and Youtube Gaming.

Re: YouTube Go: YouTube reimagined for the next generation of YouTube viewers

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Post by ceor4 »

Animats wrote: post #3

From a user perspective, the purpose of YouTube is to play out videos. Time spent in YouTube's user interface is a means for getting to the videos. But from Google's perspective, the revenue comes from time in the user interface, where the ads are. "Reimagined" probably means "more ad slots".

In case you didn't read the article, it's actually an interesting dive into what it takes to improve the user experience of youtube in places with poor bandwidth. It's really worth a read, and while you're correct that youtube makes it's money from ads that's actually commensurate with YouTube Go's goal of improving the user experience and bringing it before hundreds of millions of additional eyeballs.

Re: YouTube Go: YouTube reimagined for the next generation of YouTube viewers

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Post by fu9ar »

ultramancool wrote: post #36
JoshTriplett wrote: post #19

Hopefully this will actually work in all countries; I'd love to save videos for offline viewing while I have a wifi connection and watch them later when I don't. But that would compete with "YouTube Red". For that matter, since an offline video eliminates the buffering problem, I'd love to have the "playback speed" feature in the mobile app. The web version of YouTube supports changing the playback speed to 1.25x, 1.…

Try NewPipe, it's an open source YouTube downloader and background player for Android: https://f-droid.org/repository/browse/?fdid=org.schabi.newpi...

Thank you. You just rocked my world. Just being able to choose the bitrate of the stream prior to it chomping down on data is awesome.

Re: YouTube Go: YouTube reimagined for the next generation of YouTube viewers

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Post by ksk »

dragonwriter wrote: post #44
ksk wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But why would it need a rewrite? Adding a download and some other buttons? >It wouldn't make much sense as a feature of the existing app. Why?

> But why would it need a rewrite? Because the UX focus is different, the assumed technical infrastructure context is different, and, well, basically everything except the backend service consumed is different. Youtube Go is more distinct in role from the core Youtube app than the other break out apps (which mostly are distinguished by content focus on UX tweaks around the focal content) like Youtube Kids, Youtube Mu…

I guess we have to agree to disagree. I don't think adding a button or two is some fundamental change that requires 10 meetings with 2 designers and 5 developers. They're already streaming the video data, just save it to a file in addition/option to rendering it. They can already play video data, just play it from the file instead of streaming it.

Re: YouTube Go: YouTube reimagined for the next generation of YouTube viewers

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Post by theandrewbailey »

dublinben wrote: post #38
amelius wrote: post #37

The next generation will want to download the video and store it, just in case it gets pulled because of content owner rights.

The current generation already does.

I still have lots of pre-Youtube (and even ripped Youtube) videos hanging around my backups, and I still want to keep them.
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