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Please do not use Telegram. It' closed source and uses some half-baked crypto. Signal is open source and is actually end-to-end encrypted.
Signal is pseudo-open-source but will not allow you to use it except via the closed-source google play services, so I still wouldn't have confidence in it.
WhatsApp is Facebook. They're basically just two applications from the same company now. Are we going to have a ruling that data can't be passed from Lync to Skype in Microsoft, or from GMail to Googles Ad network? Just because corporate policy in 2014 was they would be completely separate doesn't mean that in 2016 that is now seen as a good idea (for them). Facebook makes money off your data, it was pretty obvious t…
Agreed. In other new: water is wet Sharing data is what these companies do . The only way to keep your data safe is to use open-source, e2e systems
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So what's recommended then? Signal, Wire and Tox?
What's recommended is not posting anything you absolutely need to be secure through some instant messaging app...
If not using a secure end-to-end encryption method such as chat, what do you recommend?
Email providers such as ProtonMail provide the same but in the form of email. Telephone calls are not secure, and neither are text messages.
Something 'funny' about new Fb messenger version is that it steals your SMSs from your inbox automatically Yes, you can opt out, AFTER it read your unread SMSs
Once you install facebook messenger, it steals all your contacts information and their numbers.
It's been doing that for many years and there never was any option to prevent it.
Anybody feels for discussing the actual meat of the post (consumer watchdogs actually threatening to sue Facebook) instead of discussing the alternatives or the lack of proper encryption in Telegram yet again? I for one am very happy to see this, both because it might teach Facebook and others a valuable lesson about messing with European consumers and because I used to love the old Whatsapp.
And I know that the old WhatsApp was promising privacy and a no ads business model, but you can't really promise privacy while unencrypted chat messages are flowing through your servers.
That said, Facebook can still violate people's privacy just by having access to the metadata and I hope such lawsuit will revert this decision, at least in the EU.
Remember that when Facebook promises something next time. I'm slowly moving communications over to Signal.
How reliable is Signal these days? I basically moved all my friends to Text Secure shortly after WhatsApp had been acquired by FB , but after some time we got constant problems of messages not being delivered, so we switched to Threema.
Remember that when Facebook promises something next time. I'm slowly moving communications over to Signal.
How reliable is Signal these days? I basically moved all my friends to Text Secure shortly after WhatsApp had been acquired by FB , but after some time we got constant problems of messages not being delivered, so we switched to Threema.
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Please do not use Telegram. It' closed source and uses some half-baked crypto. Signal is open source and is actually end-to-end encrypted.
Signal is pseudo-open-source but will not allow you to use it except via the closed-source google play services, so I still wouldn't have confidence in it.
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Please do not use Telegram. It' closed source and uses some half-baked crypto. Signal is open source and is actually end-to-end encrypted.
Wire[1] is also an excellent option. Unlike Open Whisper Systems they wont hang you from a tree for building a third party app. Signal wont work without Gapps or Google Play Services on your Android phone and Google Chrome for desktop. [1] https://wire.com/
I still have no clue how this deal got ignored by the anti-trust folks, especially after they saw the price tag.