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Decentralized platform for photo sales and photo sharing, built on Ethereum

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Re: Decentralized platform for photo sales and photo sharing, built on Ethereum

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One problem would be people stealing others images for profit.

It is good to design systems with the assumption that most users will use them as intended. There will always be misuse, but that can be adressed later if the system is successful. Compare airbnb, uber, dropbox. They all have very bad use cases. The systems were designed for the vast majority of users being lawful and for the most part it works.

> It is good to design systems with the assumption that most users will use them as intended.

Not in cryptoworld. This is an application running on Ethereum. The entire point of the platform is to provide means for people to interact without necessarily trusting each other.

Re: Decentralized platform for photo sales and photo sharing, built on Ethereum

#42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> his was published long before yours That's not enough. What if someone publishes before the author. Say I buy something from other resource or even directly and publish it on the OP's.

I don't follow. Could you elaborate?

You know how you can download someone's video from YouTube, upload it somewhere else and make money off of it; what's stopping you from doing something similar with pictures here? Even better, with ether.camp you're an "author" since you published it first!

Re: Decentralized platform for photo sales and photo sharing, built on Ethereum

#43

What's your "lets not turn this into decentralized eBay for child porn" story?

What would happen if someone attached a child porn image into the block chain? A cursory Google apparently reveals you can include up to 30kb of data in a transaction (?). Wouldn't everyone who was in possession of the block chain also be in possession of child porn?

Re: Decentralized platform for photo sales and photo sharing, built on Ethereum

#44

What's your "lets not turn this into decentralized eBay for child porn" story?

The interface, as in the website, is often a centralized point. Admins can remove stuff from there which easily deals with CP reflecting to a large extent the current situation - sending CP stuff to some fringe.

In more grey areas, although admins can remove, say, free speech pictures, the picture remains there, with anyone free to create a new interface allowing the picture to be easily accessed. So it's a bit similiar to the internet where anyone can - or maybe now, could - create a new site and upload the info.

You can then add more user level jury aspects on top, but I doubt anyone wants to face that sort of stuff and moderate it if the network was to gain scale. If we go back to the centralized website though, it becomes a bit interesting.

Take Milo's banning example - just because it is the most recent and comes to mind. We have the twitter website with Milo banned. Under this scheme, we can have a twitter classic with Milo not banned. Both of them have the same network effect, the same users etc, they identical in all ways, but in one Milo is banned in the other Milo isn't with the only other difference being that they have different domain names.

When we all agree something is abhorrent, everyone uses the non cp network through the centralized website interface, while some go to... like now we have internet and tor, when something is in a bit of a grey area, however, there is an added benefit.

Say, for example, reddit took some action against everyone's opinion. The current option is for everyone to move to a new site. That's of course a bit difficult as it requires a change of habit and changing habits can be stupendously extremely hard.

With this, or more generally, with a blockchain based approach, you don't ask anyone to shift at all. There is no shifting. All users remain, the entire network effect is still there. There are no bootstrapping questions etc. No starting back from zero. All there is, is typing a new domain, far, far easier than persuading everyone to start a new town in a ghost desert place.

So, it is obviously not a utopia, but, it is a bit of an improvement. The whole thing is very much at a cable switching for phone calls stage though, so, everyone is sort of considering this matters.

Re: Decentralized platform for photo sales and photo sharing, built on Ethereum

#46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The intent is to prove ownership, not to prevent piracy. You can't produce the 'owner' hash with your reconstructed RAW. I note they also only display low res until you buy a high quality version. That's what I do too. If someone wants to save/share my low res images its no problem. If they want something magazine or billboard res (ie commercial) they have to come to me.

Hi throwaway049, yes thats right, both your comments spot on. The main goal is to prove ownership to support legal sale of image. and the real target for sales are buyers that need top quality high res images. Someone mentioned another idea for combatting pircay, eg identifying photos on the web that may be copies, and that is an interesting service that would be way down the road if at all.

I don't think you understand licensing.

Re: Decentralized platform for photo sales and photo sharing, built on Ethereum

#48
post #27

> Photos for sale are identified as rightfully owned by having RAW file details published to the blockchain (actual High Res image is not stored on chain) If it's on the block chain and everyone has a copy can't I just copy it directly from the blockchain?

Maybe it's just a hash of the raw? It says the image is not itself stored on the chain.

Which gives you what? Unless you release the raw file it could be a hash of anything.

Re: Decentralized platform for photo sales and photo sharing, built on Ethereum

#49

> Photos for sale are identified as rightfully owned by having RAW file details published to the blockchain (actual High Res image is not stored on chain) If it's on the block chain and everyone has a copy can't I just copy it directly from the blockchain?

Hi sharemywin, no the photo itself is not on the blockchain, only the details about the photo & timestamp. the photo served on the website is not the full high res image. That is stored off chain

sorry about that. apparently I can't read things in parentheses even when I copy them.

Re: Decentralized platform for photo sales and photo sharing, built on Ethereum

#50

Thanks for the love guys! still looking for rockstar devs to join the hackathon team. front/back end + ethereum solidity. ping us on mark at stratagility dot com. Funding is incoming.

> looking for rockstar For those who aren't into music that much, how about ninjas? :)

ninjas rock to ;-)
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