Flooding of US Coast, Caused by Global Warming, Has Begun

Post by [deleted] » Sat, Sep 17, 2016, 4:59 PM UTC

overloaded wrote: post #19

spodek wrote: post #3

As I wrote in HN's dialog about a New York Magazine article on global warming https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12471815 : As usual, nothing about prevention. Global temperatures and the sea level are rising because of human behavior. If we want different results, we have to behave differently. Engineers and scientists know engineering and science but not so much leading people to change their behavior. It's easy…

"Engineers and scientists know engineering and science but not so much leading people to change their behavior." Yes, I'd rather think that's by design. The climatologists and scientists who have spent decades warning people of the dangers, constantly, spending their lives wandering the corners of the earth collecting evidence, getting ignored and ostracized by private industry, by backwards-looking governments at lo…

Post by kbutler » Sat, Sep 17, 2016, 5:00 PM UTC

Post by jcranmer » Sat, Sep 17, 2016, 5:26 PM UTC

pmyjavec wrote: post #31

blondie9x wrote: post #10

We all know by now CO2 and CH4 leads to a warmer planet. We also know what's driving greenhouse gas levels to rise across Earth. Contributors are deforestation, intensive animal farming, and primarily the combustion of carbon fossil fuels like coal, tar sands, oil, natural gas etc. But here is the underlying problem, despite us knowing how bad things are, (97+% of scientists who study this field agree we are causing…

Deforestation is so serious, I visited Indonesia last year and all I could see from the plane was smoke from illegal burning of forests for palm oil plantations and cheap mass animal agriculture. It was the worst fire in known history and a really, really sad thing to witness, the baron charred fields left behind are really a terrible thing to see. I wonder why on earth more wealthy Governments don't send in the "def…

Post by kwhitefoot » Sat, Sep 17, 2016, 5:35 PM UTC

abysmallyideal wrote: post #35

3pt14159 wrote: post #22

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I know this sounds a bit Ayn Rand, but almost all scientists, engineers, and computer scientists know that global warming is real and is happening. Can we not just all go on strike until the dumb or greedy people get shoved aside? Like, granted, there was some pretty effective misinformation back in 2008, but the science is completely settled now. The public benefits from our medicines and software and infrastructure…

There's already some evidence of friction between military and the (in)corporate Congress. Military folks are made up of people who live in and grew up in economically difficult situations, and as the US civilian gov and their intelligence orgs continue their strengthening of alignment with corporate interests (profit above all else) the friction is going to build like the rising waters. Edit: cliche, but history has…

Post by witty_username » Sat, Sep 17, 2016, 5:51 PM UTC

pmyjavec wrote: post #26

3pt14159 wrote: post #22

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I know this sounds a bit Ayn Rand, but almost all scientists, engineers, and computer scientists know that global warming is real and is happening. Can we not just all go on strike until the dumb or greedy people get shoved aside? Like, granted, there was some pretty effective misinformation back in 2008, but the science is completely settled now. The public benefits from our medicines and software and infrastructure…

I've thought about the strike thing for sometime also, why do we keep propping these people up? The kind of action you're describing is inevitable IMO. Humans may have to go on mass strike until we get the correct Government action on climate change. Sadly, strikes might not even be required/optional soon due to impacted health from rising temperatures, air pollution and difficulty commuting. I'm currently living in…