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FAA Urges Passengers to Not Use Samsung Galaxy Note 7 on Planes
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Re: FAA Urges Passengers to Not Use Samsung Galaxy Note 7 on Planes
#42Earlier quoted context omitted.
> but take the battery out obviously not a mac user
Clearly not. Mac users are used to their laptops actually going to sleep when they shut the lid. My work HP, however, is regularly scorching hot when I get home as it's been on in my backpack the whole time despite me shutting the lid and despite the instruction to 'go to sleep when the lid is closed'. How there's not some sort of thermal cutoff I do not know, but I know for a fact that there is not. Edit: by 'regula…
For the record, this happens a few times a year too with my MacBook Pro.
Re: FAA Urges Passengers to Not Use Samsung Galaxy Note 7 on Planes
#43Is this a Samsung-specific problem, or is it more generally, a lithium ion battery problem (the regulations have always been in place for lion batteries on planes)? I suspect it's the latter -- in which case, it's pretty unfair to single out Samsung. On another note, I've always felt paranoid about keeping my phone in my pocket or having my laptop on my lap, especially if it starts to heat up. I might as well stick a…
> it's pretty unfair to single out Samsung.
Not at all when the common denominator is the fact that it's this specific device.
Re: FAA Urges Passengers to Not Use Samsung Galaxy Note 7 on Planes
#44What happens after I send my Note 7 back, and get a new one with the problem corrected? Will I still be banned on Australian airlines?
I suspect it will be a few months, and they'll release the ban, based on numbers from Samsung (replacements as a percentage of initial sales)
Re: FAA Urges Passengers to Not Use Samsung Galaxy Note 7 on Planes
#45So what's weird to me is how the FAA is issuing this notice, yet for hoverboards didn't issue any notice; airlines took it upon themselves to ban them.
Re: FAA Urges Passengers to Not Use Samsung Galaxy Note 7 on Planes
#46Here's the actual release: https://www.faa.gov/news/press_releases/news_story.cfm?newsI... Might as well just quote it in full: > In light of recent incidents and concerns raised by Samsung about its Galaxy Note 7 devices, the Federal Aviation Administration strongly advises passengers not to turn on or charge these devices on board aircraft and not to stow them in any checked baggage.
I wonder why they aren't being banned, the way that hover boards were (though I believe the fire risk for the Note 7 is only present while charging)
Re: FAA Urges Passengers to Not Use Samsung Galaxy Note 7 on Planes
#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
I definitely hear the announcements a lot... whether or not they follow up "e-cigarettes and spare lithium batteries" with "and other electronics" or "such as those found in personal electronics" is very hit and miss. At my regional airport they just hand out the tags and don't ask any other questions or offer any other guidance to each individual passenger. It's just the one main blanket announcement.
I think unless they are checking for them to the same extent that they are checking for liquids and weapons in carry on it is likely that plenty of people aren't following the rules either intentionally or from ignorance.
Security theater
Re: FAA Urges Passengers to Not Use Samsung Galaxy Note 7 on Planes
#48If I understood this correctly, this is based on a higher (but unknown to consumers?) chance that the Galaxy Note 7 's battery could explode during flight and catch fire. Then, what would be considered a chance high enough that a laptop battery's explosion would not be a concern? Would it be safer to lock these phones into an explosion-proof box before they onboard the flight?
The risk is only while the Samsung device is charging (as I recall?). As for other devices, I suppose they could issue the warning "please do not hit your device with a hammer during flight". Fun fact I read recently: more than a million people are in the air at any one time, globally. If laptop batteries exploded even rarely, we'd hear about it.
The Aviation Herald lists a few incidents involving batteries:
http://avherald.com/h?search_term=batter&opt=0&dosearch=1&se...
Re: FAA Urges Passengers to Not Use Samsung Galaxy Note 7 on Planes
#49Earlier quoted context omitted.
Even for gate-checked bags, the gate agent is supposed to announce that lithium batteries cannot be in the bag, and should probably confirm that with the passenger when tagging the bag.
Some people have no idea what battery chemistry is in their laptops. Especially for models where the battery isn't even removable. I don't mean this as a criticism, it's just not necessarily something that everyone notices.
Are you saying there are laptops with batteries that don't fall in this dangerous category, or are you saying people don't know that all laptop batteries fall in this category?
Re: FAA Urges Passengers to Not Use Samsung Galaxy Note 7 on Planes
#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sometimes there is no choice, e.g. in the case when I carry two or three laptops for work reasons, and the weight limit of carry-on baggage means only one fits in hand luggage. A laptop packed properly in a hard bag full of clothes isn't very likely to take any hit, though. If the baggage handlers run over it by a truck, then it may be damaged, but not in plane.
If it was for work reasons I'd just ship them.
Particularly for confidential things, or when in real hurry, I really can't ship it, I have to carry it along.
A typical case is that we have software in development, I'm about to demonstrate it to a customer tomorrow, and before I leave for the trip, I'm making the final build and tweaking of demonstration data set at office and installing in the laptop that I use as a demo server.
By the time I'm ready, the DHL shipments for the day have gone and if I ship it, it would be there one day after my demo. So it has to be in my luggage.
Yes, checked-in luggage may also be lost and delayed, but with direct flights, I'll be fine as long as I'm not going to CDG (Paris).