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Re: The forgotten underground world of Swiss bunkers

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Post by roel_v »

mprev wrote: post #12

There's a data centre deep in the heart of a former Swiss bunker near Zurich. You can get VMs there from Exoscale.ch

Early 2000's, Mercedes used to have (might still do, don't know) a data center near Munich that was housed in a former Nazi bunker. The Allies blew up most bunkers at the end of the war but they calculated that the walls on this one were so thick that blowing it up would cause damage over a 5 km radius (I was told). You had to go through a double door that fully fit within such a wall, 2m+ of reinforced concrete. Mighty impressive.

Re: The forgotten underground world of Swiss bunkers

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Post by pif »

magoon wrote: post #5
badminton1 wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Swiss bank secrecy is in part what allows criminals and dictators around the world to ruin and enslave entire nations for money.

You could make the same invalid argument for encryption.

> You could make the same invalid argument for encryption.

You could make the same invalid^H^H^H^H^H^H^H argument for encryption.

FTFY

Re: The forgotten underground world of Swiss bunkers

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Post by hyperliner »

fit2rule wrote: post #43
hyperliner wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would you want such thing?

Because it serves no purpose but strife, hatred and intolerance of other human beings?

And how would doing such thing stop those who hate and are intolerant?

Re: The forgotten underground world of Swiss bunkers

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Post by fit2rule »

hyperliner wrote: post #44
fit2rule wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because it serves no purpose but strife, hatred and intolerance of other human beings?

And how would doing such thing stop those who hate and are intolerant?

It would reduce the justifications such people have for their heinous activities.

Re: The forgotten underground world of Swiss bunkers

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Post by dracht »

fit2rule wrote: post #43
hyperliner wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would you want such thing?

Because it serves no purpose but strife, hatred and intolerance of other human beings?

Those things existed before and without nations. Civil wars happen despite the participants being of the same nationality. A country is (usually) simply a label for a group of people with a shared culture, language, mindset, etc. Removing those labels is a naive attempt at achieving some global utopia filled with uniform drones.

Re: The forgotten underground world of Swiss bunkers

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Post by dracht »

london888 wrote: post #37
carsongross wrote: post #2

The swiss are an inspiration. I hope that the swiss spirit is not submerged in the ever-rising tide of internationalism.

I think the opposite. I want an end to nationalities.

Do you think there would be less conflict in the Middle East if everyone had the same (lack of) nationality? Unless you are willing to engage in mass genocide, eugenics and eternal subjugation to achieve your world of peace, there is little you can do about people that look like each other and live close to each other from identifying as a single unit. The idea of social constructivism has deluded people into believing that any human problem can be fixed by removing words from the dictionary. It's absurd.

Re: The forgotten underground world of Swiss bunkers

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Post by rvschuilenburg »

legulere wrote: post #34
mprev wrote: post #12

There's a data centre deep in the heart of a former Swiss bunker near Zurich. You can get VMs there from Exoscale.ch

Also pionen in Stockholm: http://royal.pingdom.com/2008/11/14/the-worlds-most-super-de...

There's also one in The Netherlands, "CyberBunker". They have an interesting history: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CyberBunker

Re: The forgotten underground world of Swiss bunkers

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Post by chiph »

vacri wrote: post #36
PhantomGremlin wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You would see the shelter signs pretty frequently, along with their designed occupancy. The approach to this in Manhattan in NYC was beyond farcical. Yes there were shelter signs at various buildings. Presumably their basements would be able to hold a few hundred people each. But consider: 1) what would an H-bomb or two do to Manhattan? 2) if alive, how do several million people survive in Manhattan if there is no wa…

Bunkers are also useful against conventional bombing.

Depends on whether your bunker location is known, and/or if it's considered to be high-value. Conventional weapons like the GBU-28 that can penetrate 30 meters of earth or 6 meters of reinforced concrete make any bunkers that aren't very deeply buried obsolete.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GBU-28

It's also possible that with today's precision guided bombs that successive impacts of "ordinary" 2000-lb bombs on the same exact spot could destroy a bunker.

Re: The forgotten underground world of Swiss bunkers

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Post by AlBentley »

Below the ski resort of Verbier (Swiss) there is bunker which has been converted into a hostel. I've stayed there for a week and it is very bad, and this is just sleeping there at night. Think tiny 3 story bunks, 10+ person dorms, 2 showers and almost no communal area.

https://www.tripadvisor.com.au/Hotel_Review-g198848-d306983-...

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