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Mainframes as a lifestyle choice

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Re: Mainframes as a lifestyle choice

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Can you give an example?

Having dedicated computers to control peripherals (like a RAID controller or a network card). To be fair, Atari and Commodore computers already had that.

It actually predates that. The CDC 3500 series had a separately programmable I/O controller.

And the marvelous 1403 printer would often be driven by a 1401.

Re: Mainframes as a lifestyle choice

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Just, why...

> Part of the reason I took the job was the opportunity to get paid to work on compilers, but also because I have a fascination with older computer technology. It may be worth re-reading the article.

You are right, I shouldn't question this guy's fascination with any tech. Especially if it's something that he can love, and do for good money.

Still, mainframes...

Re: Mainframes as a lifestyle choice

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Actually, if the prices are pre-agreed, it's a sweet deal. If I have a big box serving my users, being able to enable additional on premises capacity in minutes is nice. Last time I did it, Dell took several weeks to deliver the new machine.

We didn't try but being speaking with the vendor it seemed that enabling extra cores could take about a week from raising a purchase order to the activation code coming through. Maybe larger customers who run hundreds of these may have a quicker turn around time dealing directly with IBM. And it's not that IBM deliver an entire server like in your case. For most practical applications, it's merely the case of adding…

I remember one case where the activation code was in a sealed envelope. If used, the machine would acknowledge that through its direct line with IBM and billing would proceed. The unlocked resources would become available immediately.

That was in the early 90's and a lot could have changed since then.

Re: Mainframes as a lifestyle choice

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Mainframe is possibly the most offshored field there is in enterprise technology. There are masses of roles in India and to a lesser extent China and Phillipines where is offers a stable decent paying career for these countries. That's where the base-line and critical mass of roles are.

Very true. Because these skills are in high demand, my experience has been that employee turnover in the mainframe sector offshore is extremely high. We had a tremendous problem retaining offshore mainframers through the big BPO companies like Wipro, Cognizant, US Technologies, etc. Go through the effort to train them up, and they would get poached in no time because their skills were in such high demand, and the tra…

Turnover can be high, often depends on industry and country.

I know/do banking with staff in China, around 300 mainframe engineers, with average tenure around 5 years, which is miles ahead of India. If you'd like pointers for mainframe in China, drop me a mail.

Re: Mainframes as a lifestyle choice

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Not necessarily rediscovering, just re-implementing.

Ha, ha, no. I worked as a CPU logic designer on several mainframes of different architectures before moving to Sili Valley. The "look what I just invented" arrogance I encountered astounded me. When I said something like: "You know, Seymour Cray invented that around 1959, right?" the cognitive dissonance was more than they could handle -- I was usually ignored. So, no, they aren't re-implementing, they are genuinely…

It's everywhere these days. That would be very naive to expect from NoSQL 'inventors' to be familiar with IBM IMS and ADABAS, CODASYL Data Model, the history of pre-relational databases, or at least MUMPS or GemStone/S.

Re: Mainframes as a lifestyle choice

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What exactly is a "mainframe" in a modern sense? I thought it exclusively referred to old-fashioned big iron. Is it a cluster? Or are we actually talking about quarter-century-old monoliths running ancient, indispensable code?

"Mainframe" in a modern sense is the Cloud - especially 'private cloud'.

Re: Mainframes as a lifestyle choice

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Re: Mainframes as a lifestyle choice

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Curious about his point about virtualisation; sure you can't run a VM locally but those mainframe OSs have had excellent support for VMs since the 1960s and are still in many ways far ahead of more mainstream hypervisors.

He was talking about local development environment.

So why not just get himself a few dedicated VMs on the mainframe? Those things can supports thousands at a time...
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