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Google employees have enjoyed revolving door during Obama administration

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Re: Google employees have enjoyed revolving door during Obama administration

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Post by trentmb »

nowarninglabel wrote: post #38
gnu8 wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Your specific background, including current salary and years of experience, will ultimately determine your pay. U.S. Digital Service salaries are set in accordance with the General Schedule Pay Scale, which is capped at $160,300. All of the Googlers you've met who work for USDS are already well funded from their previous companies. Who in their right mind would go to work for the government, for minimum wage, unles…

Not everyone is motivated solely by money.

How many people in USDS don't have substantial wealth from prior gigs though?

Re: Google employees have enjoyed revolving door during Obama administration

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johnchristopher wrote: post #40
gnu8 wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Your specific background, including current salary and years of experience, will ultimately determine your pay. U.S. Digital Service salaries are set in accordance with the General Schedule Pay Scale, which is capped at $160,300. All of the Googlers you've met who work for USDS are already well funded from their previous companies. Who in their right mind would go to work for the government, for minimum wage, unles…

$13,000 a month is minimum wage ?

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Re: Google employees have enjoyed revolving door during Obama administration

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Post by gnu8 »

johnchristopher wrote: post #40
gnu8 wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Your specific background, including current salary and years of experience, will ultimately determine your pay. U.S. Digital Service salaries are set in accordance with the General Schedule Pay Scale, which is capped at $160,300. All of the Googlers you've met who work for USDS are already well funded from their previous companies. Who in their right mind would go to work for the government, for minimum wage, unles…

$13,000 a month is minimum wage ?

You're going to see closer to $4000 per month after tax.

Re: Google employees have enjoyed revolving door during Obama administration

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Post by ubernostrum »

ocdtrekkie wrote: post #29
nthitz wrote: post #28

Matt Cutts, who was/is a semipublic Google employee wrote on Quora today about his work at USDS. https://www.quora.com/session/Matt-Cutts/1 https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=Matt_Cutts

It is crazy to me that Googlers no longer even "revolve the door" to shift back and forth to working for the government. Matt Cutts is merely 'on leave'. Similarly, Eric Schmidt is on a panel at the DoD while simultaneously still in his position at Google. It's impossible for someone to make the best decisions for American citizens while they're simultaneously employed by a giant international corporation which is ev…

Recalling from what I was told when I went through the interview process at 18F (got to the point of the gigantic "dump your whole life in a massive form" bit, right after the OPM hack was news, and decided not to do that), the positions are legally time-limited: it's a two-year contract which can be renewed once. So maximum of four years in the job, and then you're out.

Also USDS is a bit more "do this mission" style job: basically you're being dropped into a federal agency to try to turn their tech story around. 18F is there to promote longer-term change in the model of how the federal government does technology.

Re: Google employees have enjoyed revolving door during Obama administration

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Post by rmason »

Abundnce10 wrote: post #32
alexose wrote: post #21

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USDS is hiring! https://www.usds.gov/join If you want to work remote from SF, check out 18F: https://pages.18f.gov/joining-18f/

It looks like 18F isn't hiring currently: https://pages.18f.gov/joining-18f/open-positions/ We're briefly pausing accepting new applications while we evolve how 18F plans for open roles.

You might also want to try becoming a Code For America fellow for a year working in cities:

https://www.codeforamerica.org/do-something/work-with-us/fel...

Re: Google employees have enjoyed revolving door during Obama administration

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Post by w1ntermute »

gnu8 wrote: post #43
johnchristopher wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

$13,000 a month is minimum wage ?

You're going to see closer to $4000 per month after tax.

That is false. A single person making $160k/year and living in northern VA would receive $9k/mo in after-tax income.

Re: Google employees have enjoyed revolving door during Obama administration

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Post by justinlardinois »

> More than 250 people have moved from Google and related firms to the federal government or vice versa since President Barack Obama took office.

Google has over 30,000 employees in Mountain View alone, and that's just a portion of its workforce. The term "Obama administration" in the headline is somewhat misleading considering that the above quote says it's surveyed from "the federal government," which is a huge workforce regardless of where you draw the boundaries.

Statistically, is it really that anomalous that ~250 people flowed between the two in 8 years?

Re: Google employees have enjoyed revolving door during Obama administration

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Post by thefastlane »

gnu8 wrote: post #33
philip1209 wrote: post #11

I met some of the former Googlers working for the USDS. They seemed to be many pre-IPO SREs who decided that improving government was more important than being an LP at a VC fund. They were motivated by getting tens of millions of people healthcare, and along the way they encountered huge challenges - like figuring out how to reconcile VA and Pentagon records. Their passion was inspiring, and the work they do affects…

> Your specific background, including current salary and years of experience, will ultimately determine your pay. U.S. Digital Service salaries are set in accordance with the General Schedule Pay Scale, which is capped at $160,300. All of the Googlers you've met who work for USDS are already well funded from their previous companies. Who in their right mind would go to work for the government, for minimum wage, unles…

some might do so to take advantage of PSLF
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