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The Canadian Housing Boom Fueled by China’s Billionaires

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perhaps Montreal can do the same, if the city finds some way to sidestep the provincial language laws.

Nothing wrong with language laws, people just need to stop being lazy. Learning a second language isn't that hard.

It's still a big effort, learning a language properly is not something you do for 2 hours on the weekend and get proficient at it.

Even more so if you don't plan to use that language for anything else afterwards.

It isn't that hard but isn't that easy either.

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As mentioned in this article, in most cases, father and the business do not move, only part of the family. Apart for spending in property and luxury items, looks like wealthy migration are passive participants in the economy - not starting businesses employing people, or paying much tax.

Re: The Canadian Housing Boom Fueled by China’s Billionaires

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post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perhaps Montreal can do the same, if the city finds some way to sidestep the provincial language laws.

Nothing wrong with language laws, people just need to stop being lazy. Learning a second language isn't that hard.

Learning to order lunch or talk about the weather in a second language is not that hard. Communicating at a professional level takes years of practice. For most people - especially mid-career adults with limited time - that's not going to happen.

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The interesting parts about foreign buyers is that the best story always seems to highlight the super rich, but its not like mansions are the only things going up in price. I'm sure that a price increase in land results in a "rising tide" effect for all homes, but because someone is willing to spend 64M on a mansion, does it mean condo's should be worth more too? The city is pretty, but there aren't exactly a massive…

I agree, this bothers me as well; the mansions seem to get way more press than they deserve. What gets under-reported is: -the non-foreigner/non-Chinese/locals that are hanging on to 2-3 properties -the person who can now afford that $1 million condo because they just sold their smaller condo for $500,000 and netted $250,000. -the fact that interest rates are at the lowest ever and some years ago amortization periods…

Investors who rent out their properties might change the price:rent ratio, but they don't contribute to the housing shortage.

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A running joke in Canada is that BC stands for "Bring Cash". This is what happens in a completely unregulated market. Good in the short term, disastrous in the long.

Isn't BC vast and mostly empty though? Last I looked purchase prices in Vancouver island (aside from Victoria maybe) were about the same as or lower than rural areas in Germany.

So people should just go live in the woods?

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As mentioned in this article, in most cases, father and the business do not move, only part of the family. Apart for spending in property and luxury items, looks like wealthy migration are passive participants in the economy - not starting businesses employing people, or paying much tax.

I wonder, what are wealthy people more likely to do: (1) but a hand made leather bag from a local hipster workshop (which I would do) or (2) buy a 10x more expensive Louis Vuitton bag which was probably made in a giant factory in China? And generalize to other goods/services.

(1) at least supports local economy while (2) supports limited number of middle men.

I'm not saying (2) is bad, but if it's only wealthy people spending their money only on imported goods then it is not good.

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I think that the real problem is that so many people are trying to concentrate into the densest areas. That creates huge pressures, which are reflected in the price of space. Take a look at the cities with populations below 100K. You will find lots of people who live great lives, despite not being rich. For those of us who grew up in these little island towns, living in a place like Vancouver is downright depressing,…

and for those of us used to living in cities, living in the middle of nowhere sounds horrendous.

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What isn't talked about in this article is the effect this is having on the other industries in the city aside from real estate. I believe that Vancouver has potential to be THE tech hub in Canada. Unfortunately, wages are very low compared to the cost of housing, and so the cost of living is super high. Combine that with extremely low vacancy rates, and it is very hard to attract talent from out of town. In fact, ma…

This lacks recognition. So many factors could come into play. E.g.

The downstream effects of house prices has to hit entrepreneurship. Previously a bunch of people would be in a good place to take a couple years off to start a business mid-career. Now people have these huge mortgages where your ability to start a business is hampered by your ability to get a financial buffer to take this year or 2 off. And lets not forget most businesses are created form people mid-career, not the TV typical university dropout.

And small community business, how will they exist in the future. If someone wants to set up a local 'physical presence' vet/daycare type business that are typically mixed into residential areas the threshold is now too high to exist let-alone set up a new business. How can a daycare buy a million+ dollar house and expect to make money paying that back on having 30 local kids being looked after.

Also what is going to happen with social services like retirement and periods of higher unemployment. I suspect society will be less stable as either the government has to foot much higher rent costs (unlikely) or we will see increased population movements during retirement, and now the government has to look after older people that before a family who lived nearby could help out with. And during low employment cycles society can no-longer absorb this downturn if people have large income-to-debt loans. Historically people could 'tighten belts' for a year while things improve, harder when you're neck deep in debt. So we will again see more movement of people, debt default etc. It will serve to exacerbate recessions etc.

Also these higher prices skew the economy. When people are tied up in these ever increasing loan/income ratios there will be less spending on dining, holidays, hobbies etc. It will weaken the economy by concentrating the spend in limited areas.

From this I really believe we should be talking seriously about ensuring affordable housing for owner occupiers. Residential investment need to be discouraged (note I'm not saying stopped) as a speculative asset class. I've seen a few suggested methods to achieve this but I feel the simplest is to place a yearly 'asset tax' on non-owner occupied residential property (I would also include farms). Having a % tax would make it easy to adjust to find the right balance given economic cycles change. Also this would encourage property hoarders not in heavy debt to sell for lower taxed asset classes. This I feel is important as most solutions focus on controlling the investment lending side which is limiting in reach. And the 'add supply' will always be a limited case solution.

Good luck. It seems most western governments have stopped caring about looking past the most immediate budgets.

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