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Bad news and good news for tinnitus sufferers

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Re: Bad news and good news for tinnitus sufferers

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Post by pervycreeper »

tim333 wrote: post #3

I think the title's a bit clickbait. Basically it's saying there's been a paper published that says: >Tinnitus and chronic pain [are similar]. It is now becoming increasingly clear that higher cognitive and affective brain systems are centrally involved in the pathology of both disorders. and the article says: >In both, there is impairment in the frontal lobe >In tinnitus and chronic pain, these structures appear to…

>I think the title's a bit clickbait

In this case, the article's content is far more interesting than the title suggests, contrary to the usual pattern.

Re: Bad news and good news for tinnitus sufferers

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Post by dang »

stevenwiles wrote: post #39
throw_stone wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is unfortunate to observe the degree to which the HN community has degraded. Tinnitus is absolutely very real and can be extremely debilitating with a significant effect on quality of life, or worse.

That's pretty rich from someone who needs to make an account every time he wants to comment. Do you keep getting banned?

Please don't be uncivil here.

Re the above: I don't know how you define "real thing" but tinnitus is certainly real enough. I've had it for ages.

Re: Bad news and good news for tinnitus sufferers

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Post by throw_stone »

stevenwiles wrote: post #39
throw_stone wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is unfortunate to observe the degree to which the HN community has degraded. Tinnitus is absolutely very real and can be extremely debilitating with a significant effect on quality of life, or worse.

That's pretty rich from someone who needs to make an account every time he wants to comment. Do you keep getting banned?

Please reconsider your approach in responding on HN. Both your sarcastic response and your incorrect assumption do not fit the culture here.

Re: Bad news and good news for tinnitus sufferers

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Post by throw_stone »

dang wrote: post #40
throw_stone wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is unfortunate to observe the degree to which the HN community has degraded. Tinnitus is absolutely very real and can be extremely debilitating with a significant effect on quality of life, or worse.

Please don't go from one comment to "the HN community has degraded".

My apologies. It's a long term observation, I've been a lurker for the better part of 6-7 years or so.

Re: Bad news and good news for tinnitus sufferers

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Post by dang »

throw_stone wrote: post #44
dang wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please don't go from one comment to "the HN community has degraded".

My apologies. It's a long term observation, I've been a lurker for the better part of 6-7 years or so.

People have been saying that HN is getting worse for at least that long. It's a special case of things-are-always-getting-worse.

Re: Bad news and good news for tinnitus sufferers

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Post by stevenwiles »

throw_stone wrote: post #43
stevenwiles wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's pretty rich from someone who needs to make an account every time he wants to comment. Do you keep getting banned?

Please reconsider your approach in responding on HN. Both your sarcastic response and your incorrect assumption do not fit the culture here.

If you're going to reply to single comments saying "it's unfortunate how much the HN community has degraded", then I would urge you to reconsider your approach in responding on HN.

Your input is neither necessary nor desired.

Re: Bad news and good news for tinnitus sufferers

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Post by tptacek »

stevenwiles wrote: post #46
throw_stone wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please reconsider your approach in responding on HN. Both your sarcastic response and your incorrect assumption do not fit the culture here.

If you're going to reply to single comments saying "it's unfortunate how much the HN community has degraded", then I would urge you to reconsider your approach in responding on HN. Your input is neither necessary nor desired.

Please stop trolling. It's obvious and insulting to everyone's intelligence. Tinnitus --- which I have had since I was 5 --- has been written about since long before there was a public Internet. I simply do not believe anyone could in good faith confidently assert that it doesn't exist. The only conclusion any reasonable reader can draw to what you've said is that you're writing this stuff to get a rise out of people. Don't do that.

Re: Bad news and good news for tinnitus sufferers

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Post by lutorm »

FreeFull wrote: post #33
jdc0589 wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

weird... I don't have tinnitus, that I know of, but if I put earbuds in that provide a lot of sound dampening and clench my jaw muscles, it makes a pretty noticeable roaring sound, kind of sounds like the inside of an airplane.

I think that's the sound of your Eustachian tubes being open.

That's an interesting theory.

Re: Bad news and good news for tinnitus sufferers

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Post by stevenwiles »

tptacek wrote: post #47
stevenwiles wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you're going to reply to single comments saying "it's unfortunate how much the HN community has degraded", then I would urge you to reconsider your approach in responding on HN. Your input is neither necessary nor desired.

Please stop trolling. It's obvious and insulting to everyone's intelligence. Tinnitus --- which I have had since I was 5 --- has been written about since long before there was a public Internet. I simply do not believe anyone could in good faith confidently assert that it doesn't exist. The only conclusion any reasonable reader can draw to what you've said is that you're writing this stuff to get a rise out of people…

Please review the HN guidelines. Your comment is in violation.

Re: Bad news and good news for tinnitus sufferers

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Post by tim333 »

J-dawg wrote: post #23
lutorm wrote: post #14

I have mild tinnitus, it's not really bothering me but is noticeable in quiet environments. I find it interesting that I can exacerbate it by pulling on my jaw or clenching my jaw. If I'm feeling a bit under the weather, it is also exacerbated by moving my eyes. So at least in my case, there's a definite connection to muscles around the ear. There appears to be at least some support for this in the literature, e.g. h…

Same here. If I clench my jaw or push it forward it gets much louder and more noticeable, especially on one side.

I was reading up on the physics of how hearing works at the molecular level and the movements involved are very small of the order of the width of an atom so shoving elsewhere on the head might be able to affect things in the ear on that scale. The mechanism kind of works by running a sort of string (tip link) between two hairs linked to an ion channel so when a wave moves the hairs the string pulls the channel open enough to let K+ ions through. The whole thing looks Heath Robinson enough to go wrong fairly easily. http://www.cochlea.eu/en/hair-cells
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