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Re: Search the DNC email database

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> If you have conservative leaning ideals You very much have an opposite side of the aisle wether you want to admit it or not.

As someone with no stake in US politics (so no 'side of the aisle') both candidates are bad. Trump however is another level of bad. An openly sexist, potentially racist man with no political experience, running for the highest political office in your country is lunacy.

> An openly sexist, potentially racist man

Citation needed.

> with no political experience

That's not necessarily a bad thing.

Re: Search the DNC email database

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None of them are particularly interesting, though. So far I'm pretty surprised with how pedestrian it is. Even looking for the word "fuck" reveals few internal communications which use it. In one thread, some guy seems to have gotten a sub-optimal time slot for putting out Democratic-leaning news on CNN, since it's at 6AM rather than closer to near 8:20AM when, it turns out, Obama was going to deliver some statement.…

https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/7643 https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/11508 I wouldn't call that professional. I would call that conspiring to commit a civil rights violation, or exploit one.

I was talking in particular about the use of profanity in a working environment, of course.

I do not know what you are reading into those emails but speaking purely objectively, there is remarkably little content in them to go off of. It could potentially have to do with Bernie Sanders in the Kentucky and West Virginia primaries (which were in early May), but that seems somewhat unlikely given the timestamps -- the West Virginia primary was only 5 days after the email was sent, which is almost no time for one to ask the question, get whatever answer, and launch a smear campaign. It could also be not about Sanders at all--WVA is an odd way to refer to West Virginia when WV will work as well, and the name "Sanders" doesn't appear anywhere in the emails themselves.

Even if it's about Sanders, the email doesn't even say whether the guy is rooting for or against Sanders: it could just as easily be "Hey, I heard this rumor that Sanders is an atheist, can we get someone to ask him so that he can squash that rumor like a bug?"

It doesn't strike me as a "civil rights violation" to ask about someone's religious views. I mean, maybe the US people not voting for politicians based on their religious affiliation is a larger civil rights violation that you fear will be triggered if this question is asked, but that seems like several steps away from a sure thing, since it's quite possible that Bernie will play a different political card.

Re: Search the DNC email database

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post #24

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Trump isn't going to signal the downfall of the US no more than Obama has. Democrats have adopted the scare tactics and language of Republicans circa 2008

Have you seen Trump's twitter feed? I've rarely seen such spew outside 4chan. Your average software engineer is more qualified, just by the signal virtue of having self control in public. It's widely understood internationally that this is not normative US election wank. I assure you, I'm not a Democrat either. I would probably be a Rockefeller Republican... if such a thing existed today.

Berlusconi was worse. Italy somehow survived.

Re: Search the DNC email database

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I would argue that the distinction is between smearing him because he's a secular Jew or being an atheist . They're arguing he's an insufficiently religious Jew, which is a common smear in itself against some Jews.

I'm not from kentucky or west virginia, but my understanding of those places is that it would be much worse to run as an atheist than as a jew

I think you're likely right. It is fascinating how my post has been downvoted to 0 (from 5), though.

Re: Search the DNC email database

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post #42

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https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/7643 https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/11508 I wouldn't call that professional. I would call that conspiring to commit a civil rights violation, or exploit one.

I was talking in particular about the use of profanity in a working environment, of course. I do not know what you are reading into those emails but speaking purely objectively, there is remarkably little content in them to go off of. It could potentially have to do with Bernie Sanders in the Kentucky and West Virginia primaries (which were in early May), but that seems somewhat unlikely given the timestamps -- the W…

You cannot possibly be serious.

1) The emails refer to two upcoming primaries, which occurred in close temporal and spatial proximity to each other. Literally no other campaign in the nation is in two states. It is hard to imagine any other figure in the nation that that refers to other than Bernie Sanders. I didn't mention Bernie Sanders in my reply, so why did you think it was about Bernie and then attempt to deny it? I think you protest too much.

2) The email is clearly suggesting to use the question against Sanders. Your hypothetical suggestion is plainly unsupported by the facts. Let me just quote the objectionable e-mail:

> It might may no difference, but for KY and WVA can we get someone to ask his belief. Does he believe in a God. He had skated on saying he has a Jewish heritage. I think I read he is an atheist. This could make several points difference with my peeps. My Southern Baptist peeps would draw a big difference between a Jew and an atheist.

That is clearly saying that knowledge that Sanders is an atheist would hurt him in KY and WVA (by the way: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WVA). It is also implying that someone should directly ask him so he can't "skate by".

3) civil service jobs are not supposed to involve discrimination based on religious preferences and attempts to exploit bigotry by national political organizations is deeply unethical.

Re: Search the DNC email database

#47
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I guess Assange would like to see Trump win - quickest way to bring about the downfall of the US

So we're supposed to tolerate corruption simply to avoid Trump? Trump offers us a lesson that if we don't take democracy (and the underlying components/principles) seriously, it will decay.

> Trump offers us a lesson...

I hate to be the check your privileged type, but I can't imagine hearing that from any type of minority person. Sure, if you are an upper middle class white guy, like most of us here, the idea of sending a lesson might be attractive. But that lesson isn't worth sacrifices to the rights of women, LGBT people, Muslims, African Americans, and everyone else that would be hurt be a Trump presidency.

Re: Search the DNC email database

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I wish someone would try their luck with the spam laws on the books against linkedin. The likelihood of a win would be very low, but the benefit if they did win would be enormous to everyone.

That's happened: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/20/linkedin-sued-hacki... http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/linkedin-class-action-email-...

Actually, I was referring more to the recipient side, not the LinkedIn user side.

I don't really see a big difference between someone selling their personal address book to LinkedIn and someone supplying it automatically. In both instances, both parties benefit (the user with connections or money, and LinkedIn with new user leads), and the recipients end up with unsolicited email.

Using an address book to locate existing users and present them an option to connect is one thing. Using that address book to market to unknown people through their email addresses is clearly spam.

Re: Search the DNC email database

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Lots of social security numbers, credit card numbers, full names, addresses, and phone numbers of very wealthy donors in there.

Also, here's one where the DNC creates fake (satirical) craigslist posts advertising jobs for Trump businesses: https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/12803

Re: Search the DNC email database

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post #7

I guess Assange would like to see Trump win - quickest way to bring about the downfall of the US

So we're supposed to tolerate corruption simply to avoid Trump? Trump offers us a lesson that if we don't take democracy (and the underlying components/principles) seriously, it will decay.

I would really prefer to avoid a 4-year object lesson of that sort. Not saying Hillary will be a good president, but she won't be as bad as him. At least it buys us 4 more years of (roughly) status quo and maybe the disintegration of the Republican party. Which, IMO, would be an objective good thing (same with the Democratic party). Restructured, in 4-8 years with 2-3 viable future parties forming we may have some that exhibit saner political stances.
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