Master Plan, Part Deux • Hacker News Board

Re: Master Plan, Part Deux

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Post by JeffL » Thu, Jul 21, 2016, 1:23 AM UTC

thucydides wrote: post #23

> "When used correctly, [partially autonomous driving] is already significantly safer than a person driving by themselves" If you're an American, you're twice as likely to die with a steering wheel in your hands as you are to die at the hands of a murderer. Human-driven vehicle deaths cause grave second-order suffering for families and friends - and hurt the economy. A shift to technologies safer than human-driven ca…

Maybe that would be a good thing? Without need for parking, commercial districts could get denser and denser, and people could have nice large homes far away for cheaper than ever. If the cars aren't causing pollution or gridlock, what's so bad about living in the suburbs?

Re: Master Plan, Part Deux

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Post by srunni » Thu, Jul 21, 2016, 1:23 AM UTC

mrfusion wrote: post #22

I didn't understand what enables them to get rid of aisles inside buses? People still need to reach their seats right?

The buses could have falcon wing doors, just like the Model X: http://i.imgur.com/40o2Uvd.jpg

Re: Master Plan, Part Deux

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Post by mrfusion » Thu, Jul 21, 2016, 1:24 AM UTC

back_beyond wrote: post #31

Master Plan, Part Trois: Solar-powered, autonomous spacecraft.

Actually aircraft could be a very real possibility of you read up on his ideas.

Re: Master Plan, Part Deux

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Post by BurningFrog » Thu, Jul 21, 2016, 1:24 AM UTC

thucydides wrote: post #23

> "When used correctly, [partially autonomous driving] is already significantly safer than a person driving by themselves" If you're an American, you're twice as likely to die with a steering wheel in your hands as you are to die at the hands of a murderer. Human-driven vehicle deaths cause grave second-order suffering for families and friends - and hurt the economy. A shift to technologies safer than human-driven ca…

Parking becomes mostly obsolete, freeing up huge amounts of central city areas.

Re: Master Plan, Part Deux

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Post by maxerickson » Thu, Jul 21, 2016, 1:25 AM UTC

helicon wrote: post #32

Forgive me if this is a silly question but when he talks about "beautiful solar-roof-with-battery", is he talking about car roofs or roofs of buildings? An electric car with a solar roof that charges all day would be pretty cool.

Buildings. A car roof isn't enough area and isn't pointed in the right direction.

Re: Master Plan, Part Deux

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Post by esusatyo » Thu, Jul 21, 2016, 1:25 AM UTC

It's interesting that they portray self-driving capabilities as something that can be turned on or off, unlike Google's where it's just always on.

I think in the long run Google might be building the correct solution for greater number of people.

Re: Master Plan, Part Deux

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Post by BurningFrog » Thu, Jul 21, 2016, 1:26 AM UTC

helicon wrote: post #32

Forgive me if this is a silly question but when he talks about "beautiful solar-roof-with-battery", is he talking about car roofs or roofs of buildings? An electric car with a solar roof that charges all day would be pretty cool.

Buildings.

Re: Master Plan, Part Deux

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Post by azylman » Thu, Jul 21, 2016, 1:26 AM UTC

stephenitis wrote: post #27

paulsutter wrote: post #15

> We expect that worldwide regulatory approval will require something on the order of 6 billion miles (10 billion km). Current fleet learning is happening at just over 3 million miles (5 million km) per day. This seems very significant for Tesla vs competitors. Yes Google has a strong technology lead today, but how long will that last when Tesla is collecting more miles of data every day than Google has collected in…

how many miles of data has googled accumulated is a unanswered question. Also does that mean 6B miles combining all autonomous vehicle manufacturers?

Google actually publishes stats on their self-driving cars. They're currently just shy of three million miles in the last seven years, only some of which are from autonomous mode: https://static.googleusercontent.com/media/www.google.com/en...

Re: Master Plan, Part Deux

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Post by 2bitencryption » Thu, Jul 21, 2016, 1:27 AM UTC

danhak wrote: post #11

I'm on board with most of this. The goals here are obviously ambitious by any standard, and would seem totally absurd if put forth by anyone who didn't happen to berth a private spacecraft with the ISS earlier this morning.

I've read a fair share of criticisms against Tesla, and many of them are founded on solid points.

However, in the grand scheme of things, this really does seem like I am watching history unfold. I don't know if I've ever truly believed the "grand mission statement" of a company before so much as I do Tesla's. Mostly because, when it has come down to it, Musk has proved that he really means it. Silicon Valley has made the joke a billion times of start-ups saying they're trying "To make the world a better place." The difference with Tesla (and probably also SpaceX) is that if they succeed, it seems they really will make the world a better place. ..and probably cement Musk a pretty good paragraph in the history books, it seems.

Re: Master Plan, Part Deux

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Post by mrfusion » Thu, Jul 21, 2016, 1:27 AM UTC

srunni wrote: post #42

mrfusion wrote: post #22

I didn't understand what enables them to get rid of aisles inside buses? People still need to reach their seats right?

The buses could have falcon wing doors, just like the Model X: http://i.imgur.com/40o2Uvd.jpg

I'm not seeing it. That seems like a lot of doors to build.