Stop using gmail.com for things you care about • Hacker News Board

Re: Stop using gmail.com for things you care about

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Post by dvl » Sat, Jul 09, 2016, 8:36 PM UTC

gpm wrote: post #36

And what's the alternative? I could use an ISP (or in my case university) email, but I'll lose access to that in the future when I change ISPs (or graduate). I could use , but they will probably have the same problem, and unless I'm using one of the other giant services (e.g. outlook) are probably more likely to disappear than Google is to randomly ban me. I could use a paid provider, but they are probably still more…

> I could use a paid provider, but they are probably still more likely to disappear in the future than google is likely to randomly ban me.

That was my main reason to still use Gmail till today.

From now I'll be making regular backups, and always use an email address on my own domain, so I can freely change provider without much problems.

Re: Stop using gmail.com for things you care about

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Post by dogma1138 » Sat, Jul 09, 2016, 8:41 PM UTC

jakobegger wrote: post #6

The absolute lack of customer support for Gmail made me switch to Fastmail a couple of years ago. I use my own domain now, so if I ever become unhappy with Fastmail I'm not locked in. Email is so vital to my personal life and my business that it is worth paying 50 bucks a year.

If you are paying you can use Gmail for Work which is a paid service which comes with 24/7 phone support.

However like any service when it comes to your business read the TOS and the contract very well. Basing your business on "free" services is never a good idea, a paid contract usually gives you some sort of protection and better terms than "provided as is".

Re: Stop using gmail.com for things you care about

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Post by falcolas » Sat, Jul 09, 2016, 8:50 PM UTC

JabavuAdams wrote: post #13

wineisfine wrote: post #2

I doubt Google is just closing accounts without a good reason.

At this point, that's a well-known psychological bias. Gmail is a large-scale impersonal system / organization. In every other walk of life, we see such large organizations making mistakes, for essentially inscrutable reasons. Why would Gmail / Google be any different? The onus is on you to show that, rather than the OP to prove he's above reproach / faultless.

Not to mention that it's impossible to prove a negative - that you've never broken Google's EULA in this case.

Re: Stop using gmail.com for things you care about

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Post by a3n » Sat, Jul 09, 2016, 9:07 PM UTC

mrb wrote: post #34

a3n wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your own domain, plus ABG, is really the way to go. I'm a very happy customer of Fastmail, my preferred ABG.

"Your own domain, plus ABG, is really the way to go. I'm a very happy customer of Fastmail, my preferred ABG." ABG?

Anyone But Google/Gmail.

Re: Stop using gmail.com for things you care about

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Post by [deleted] » Sat, Jul 09, 2016, 9:07 PM UTC

mrb wrote: post #34

a3n wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your own domain, plus ABG, is really the way to go. I'm a very happy customer of Fastmail, my preferred ABG.

"Your own domain, plus ABG, is really the way to go. I'm a very happy customer of Fastmail, my preferred ABG." ABG?

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Re: Stop using gmail.com for things you care about

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Post by falcolas » Sat, Jul 09, 2016, 9:32 PM UTC

chrischen wrote: post #37

Jabbles wrote: post #11

Last time I saw this on HN it was something like an art professor who'd been storing pictures of cherubs or something and it had tripped Google's child-porn detector. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2810946

If someone emails you child porn, would that disable your account?

If cherubs trigger it, it probably doesn't even need to be porn.

Re: Stop using gmail.com for things you care about

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Post by zzalpha » Sat, Jul 09, 2016, 9:48 PM UTC

chrischen wrote: post #35

chx wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Both Gmail (important and unread) and Google Inbox gives you a birds eye view of important emails. Can fastmail do this?

I find those features useless.

So... no?

Re: Stop using gmail.com for things you care about

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Post by KayL » Sun, Jul 10, 2016, 2:27 AM UTC

Backup Emails is easy, just set up auto-forwarder to Yahoo Mail or Hotmail. But losing the Google Account, you won't even able to login some single sign-on services.

Re: Stop using gmail.com for things you care about

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Post by atomlib » Sun, Jul 10, 2016, 7:21 AM UTC

I use Yandex Mail For Domain https://domain.yandex.com which is free with the exact same features regular Yandex.Mail has (“unlimited” mailbox size, Yandex.Disk, letters up to 30 MB in size). By default you can create up to 1000 mailboxes per domain but if you state why you need more they can lift the limit. There is DKIM support. They do have one weird restriction though. I have no access to abuse@ and spam@ mailboxes since they use these for spam reports.

What's far more interesting is that their tech support actually answers. It may take a day or three but they do talk back.

Re: Stop using gmail.com for things you care about

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Post by xbmcuser » Sun, Jul 10, 2016, 9:46 AM UTC

This part I dont get about Google they ban you but don't tell you why. At least they should make a chart of offences of 1-5 and put different offences in the chart according to severity of offence. So when banning you they can say for this number it won't mean much to rest of the world but the person getting banned could probably guess why.