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The Godzilla of Solar Ovens

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Re: The Godzilla of Solar Ovens

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This and the Odeillo plants are pretty amazing. It is remarkably easy these days to build something which can create some really amazing temperatures. I used a Fresnel lens from a 50" rear projection TV to build a concentrator for the kids as part of a science project. We have also used more commercial solar ovens[1] to cook bread and other parts of dinner in the backyard or at camp. That said, I've always wondered i…

Using this on earth is hard because any clouds prevents this from get into extreme temperate ranges. So, you have low utilization in the 10-30% range. This also gets vastly harder the further you get from the Sun and the asteroid belt is not all that close. A solar concentrator + solar panel + more traditional methods may work better especially out in the ort cloud.

Possibly, but you can make a kilometer diameter mylar mirror which folds up into a pretty small pouch. A small puff of gas to inflate the 'struts' and poof you've got more sun to work with. The asteroid belt is nominally 2.5AU from the Sun and using the inverse square law would suggest 1/6th the amount of solar insolation. So the Odeillo oven has 2600 sq meters of mirror and generates temperatures of 3000 degrees. Our 1km dish would have 785,400 sq meters so about 302 times the surface area, with 1/6th the insolation we should get about 50x the energy out of it if my math is correct.

Re: The Godzilla of Solar Ovens

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If you want to do this on the cheap, see if you can find an old C-band mesh satellite dish. They can be found for free in rural areas of the US and Canada where people have them rotting in their yard. Like so:

http://www.vk3nro.com/122East2014/CBandDish.png

Cover in aluminum foil or mylar or whatever is cheap and highly reflective. Cook food at the location of the feed focus.

Re: The Godzilla of Solar Ovens

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Using this on earth is hard because any clouds prevents this from get into extreme temperate ranges. So, you have low utilization in the 10-30% range. This also gets vastly harder the further you get from the Sun and the asteroid belt is not all that close. A solar concentrator + solar panel + more traditional methods may work better especially out in the ort cloud.

Possibly, but you can make a kilometer diameter mylar mirror which folds up into a pretty small pouch. A small puff of gas to inflate the 'struts' and poof you've got more sun to work with. The asteroid belt is nominally 2.5AU from the Sun and using the inverse square law would suggest 1/6th the amount of solar insolation. So the Odeillo oven has 2600 sq meters of mirror and generates temperatures of 3000 degrees. Ou…

Aiming a 1km dish is not going to be easy not to mention station keeping. Also, while it's clearly producing a lot of heat and may even vaporize iron that's not the goal. Further without Gravity many approaches for refining materials don't work as heating a chunk may just eject it into space.

Alternatively if you look at it as a large and relatively cheap tool it may be useful as a relatively small part of the process.

Re: The Godzilla of Solar Ovens

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