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Re: Trump

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Post by maxsavin »

potatoman2 wrote: post #29
ethanhunt_ wrote: post #20

Disappointed to see Sam repeat things that are plainly false. Everyone says that Trump says such horrible things, but why is it that so often those same people have to misquote him to make it seem horrible? > He has said that a judge of Mexican descent couldn’t treat him fairly because of his heritage and that we should ban Muslims from entering the country. He said that a judge of Mexican descent isn't treating him…

Given that many believe Trump to be literally Hitler, bending the facts is a small price to pay to stop him.

That's not how you stop someone like that. That's how you become them.

Re: Trump

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Post by mindslight »

If there were a worthwhile contender, then perhaps I'd consider voting. As it is, I don't see how casting a vote for Johnson does anything more than legitimize the election and thereby our totalitarian democracy. And that's exactly what Trump and his rhetoric are - inevitable products of late-game democracy.

If he does beat Shillary in the finals, it will at least be nice having most of my peers back to an anti-government slant like during the Bush years.

Re: Trump

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Post by zorpner »

He's right that we're drowning in political correctness...

Trump's casual racism, misogyny, and conspiracy theories are without precedent...

That's some impressive cognitive dissonance, sama. Those are two aspects of the same thought happening in Trump's mind.

EDIT: Stewart Lee's smart (and amusing!) bit on the idea of "political correctness": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmsV1TuESrc

Re: Trump

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Post by vox_mollis »

ethanhunt_ wrote: post #20

Disappointed to see Sam repeat things that are plainly false. Everyone says that Trump says such horrible things, but why is it that so often those same people have to misquote him to make it seem horrible? > He has said that a judge of Mexican descent couldn’t treat him fairly because of his heritage and that we should ban Muslims from entering the country. He said that a judge of Mexican descent isn't treating him…

I'm curious why this comment has been so aggressively down-voted. Do we now eschew fact-checking on HN?

Re: Trump

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Post by [deleted] »

creshal wrote: post #35
kirinan wrote: post #25

While I think Trump is a bad choice, I think comparing him to Hitler is overzealous and irresponsible. There are no doubt similarities between the two but Hitler wrote an entire book about the "Jewish Peril" and how it was destroying society and needed to be dealt with. It was clear that Hitler had an agenda that was anti-semetic, and the charisma/ability to execute on it. Trump is a racist and a bigot, but he is far…

> Trump is a racist and a bigot, but he is far from someone that would be able to implement a "Final Solution". Why? Hitler didn't implement it himself either, he had staff for that. He just told them to get cracking. (That doesn't mean Trump will, but dismissing the possibility for grounds of incompetency seems a too easy way out.)

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Re: Trump

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Post by jeremyt »

vox_mollis wrote: post #17

Trump's casual racism, misogyny, and conspiracy theories are without precedent among major presidential nominees. It seems that sama needs to listen to the Nixon tapes.

Or read a few paragraphs of Lyndon Johnson's biography.

Re: Trump

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Post by maxsavin »

Everhusk wrote: post #7

> And without it, we’ll lose our position as the most powerful country in the world. Why is this a bad thing? Isn't the goal of globalization to start thinking of our planet as a whole?

If we slip we'll probably get beat down by everyone.

Re: Trump

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Post by magicalist »

clevernickname wrote: post #19

I thought "pure politics" posts weren't allowed/were discouraged on HN? >dang 47 days ago >It isn't that it's pro-Trump, it's that it's pure politics. Such posts always get heavily flagged, and it's hard to disagree with that, since they're typically not posted to gratify intellectual curiosity. >Basic Income stories are political, but they aren't purely political. There's an intellectual interest in thinking about a…

> Such posts always get heavily flagged

That says they get flagged, not that they aren't allowed. I have no doubt this post is getting many flags as we type.

Re: Trump

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Post by swiftisthebest »

kirinan wrote: post #25

While I think Trump is a bad choice, I think comparing him to Hitler is overzealous and irresponsible. There are no doubt similarities between the two but Hitler wrote an entire book about the "Jewish Peril" and how it was destroying society and needed to be dealt with. It was clear that Hitler had an agenda that was anti-semetic, and the charisma/ability to execute on it. Trump is a racist and a bigot, but he is far…

What did he do that proves he is racist or bigoted?
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