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Re: Apple announces iOS 10

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Post by wodenokoto »

orbitur wrote: post #8

Holy moly, Apple is very aware of the competing chat apps. iMessage looks amazing and they packed a lot of features in there, but I wonder how they're going to make it all easily discoverable.

The problem is not discoverability, the problem is certainty that the counter part can receive these things.

I already find the SMS app on iOS confusing. Am I sending a paid SMS or a free message?

I dare say one of the major advantages of messaging apps in general is the certainty that the receiver will receive the message in the same shape as the sender send it.

With MMS you never know if the picture can be opened, and people just gave up.

Re: Apple announces iOS 10

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Post by throwanem »

andrewla wrote: post #24

Looks like Apple is doubling down on at least two features that really seem like duds -- 3D Touch (which as far as I can tell nobody even knows exists), and Siri (which everyone raves about but nobody uses for anything). I'd love to see UX improvements around minor inconveniences of the iOS experience: - what the hell the volume button does in different contexts (sometimes it changes the ringer, other times the in-ap…

> what the hell the volume button does in different contexts

If the app you're using right now has a handle for audio playback, it changes the speaker volume. If not, it changes the ringer volume. As far as I can tell, that's all, and in a half decade of using iPhones and iPods, I've never actually seen it misbehave.

Re: Apple announces iOS 10

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Post by mgkimsal »

throwanem wrote: post #43
andrewla wrote: post #24

Looks like Apple is doubling down on at least two features that really seem like duds -- 3D Touch (which as far as I can tell nobody even knows exists), and Siri (which everyone raves about but nobody uses for anything). I'd love to see UX improvements around minor inconveniences of the iOS experience: - what the hell the volume button does in different contexts (sometimes it changes the ringer, other times the in-ap…

> what the hell the volume button does in different contexts If the app you're using right now has a handle for audio playback, it changes the speaker volume. If not, it changes the ringer volume. As far as I can tell, that's all, and in a half decade of using iPhones and iPods, I've never actually seen it misbehave.

If you're in the camera, and listening to music, or on a call, using the volume buttons just take a bunch of pictures.

Re: Apple announces iOS 10

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Post by johansch »

thisisdallas wrote: post #22
prrrnd wrote: post #15

Am i the only one thinking that Steve Jobs would have refused most of the things that were introduced this morning? Apple sure has changed over the years.

No, you aren't the only one. In my opinion, Apple has gone from a mixed of innovation + reaction + improved quality to mainly just reaction.

Agreed. I was yawning during this keynote. This is weak sauce.

Re: Apple announces iOS 10

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Post by jedberg »

throwanem wrote: post #43
andrewla wrote: post #24

Looks like Apple is doubling down on at least two features that really seem like duds -- 3D Touch (which as far as I can tell nobody even knows exists), and Siri (which everyone raves about but nobody uses for anything). I'd love to see UX improvements around minor inconveniences of the iOS experience: - what the hell the volume button does in different contexts (sometimes it changes the ringer, other times the in-ap…

> what the hell the volume button does in different contexts If the app you're using right now has a handle for audio playback, it changes the speaker volume. If not, it changes the ringer volume. As far as I can tell, that's all, and in a half decade of using iPhones and iPods, I've never actually seen it misbehave.

That's true but how do I turn the volume down before a video starts. As far as I can tell there is no way to do that. In Youtube, even if my phone is muted, as soon as the video plays it will be 70% volume and I have to rush to turn it down.

Re: Apple announces iOS 10

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Post by ultramancool »

andrewla wrote: post #24

Looks like Apple is doubling down on at least two features that really seem like duds -- 3D Touch (which as far as I can tell nobody even knows exists), and Siri (which everyone raves about but nobody uses for anything). I'd love to see UX improvements around minor inconveniences of the iOS experience: - what the hell the volume button does in different contexts (sometimes it changes the ringer, other times the in-ap…

> 3D Touch (which as far as I can tell nobody even knows exists)

Is this feature that bad? I'm an Android guy and it's probably the most appealing thing I've seen on the Apple side in a long time. At least as a replacement for the long press.

Re: Apple announces iOS 10

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Post by k-mcgrady »

ommunist wrote: post #44

Heck, I just bought a course to study iOS9 development... Who can withstand such a pace?

If you're developing production apps you're likely supporting at least the last two versions of iOS. I'm a full-time iOS developer and don't remember half the new stuff in iOS 9 simply because I don't need it yet or it's iOS 9 only and I have to support iOS 7+. Also all of that knowledge transfers. iOS 10 will bring extra deeper stuff that you're not going to get anywhere near learning on an intro course.

Re: Apple announces iOS 10

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Post by k-mcgrady »

ultramancool wrote: post #48
andrewla wrote: post #24

Looks like Apple is doubling down on at least two features that really seem like duds -- 3D Touch (which as far as I can tell nobody even knows exists), and Siri (which everyone raves about but nobody uses for anything). I'd love to see UX improvements around minor inconveniences of the iOS experience: - what the hell the volume button does in different contexts (sometimes it changes the ringer, other times the in-ap…

> 3D Touch (which as far as I can tell nobody even knows exists) Is this feature that bad? I'm an Android guy and it's probably the most appealing thing I've seen on the Apple side in a long time. At least as a replacement for the long press.

It just isn't incredibly useful. Looks like they're refining how it's used (glanceable info instead of just shortcuts on a force touch on a home screen icon). I don't know what the parent expected them to do (throw out years of development?) but looks like it's heading in the right direction to me.
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