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Re: Peter Thiel's dangerous blueprint for perverting philanthropy

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Post by yummyfajitas » Sun, May 29, 2016, 2:53 AM UTC

jonathankoren wrote: post #40

yummyfajitas wrote: post #25

I have no idea why everyone thinks this is doing something unusual. Using lawsuits to stifle free speech is commonplace. For example, using lawsuits to stifle climate skepticism: https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2016-04-08/subpoenae... Hillary Clinton was famous for shutting down free speech - her critics had to go all the way to the supreme Court to protect their right to criticize politicians (see citizens u…

The thing that makes it unusual is that he's acting in secret and actively soliciting lawsuits he has no interest in, and structures the lawsuits to remove incurable claims because he has a personal vendetta against a media outlet that he doesn't like. If you can't see the difference between working in public against a violent racist organization and a petulant billionaire waiting 7 years to throw a bunch of middle c…

I can clearly see the difference. Aryan nations is on the other team while gawker is on your team.

Incidentally, middle class people worked for Aryan Nation also.

Re: Peter Thiel's dangerous blueprint for perverting philanthropy

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Post by jonathankoren » Sun, May 29, 2016, 4:15 PM UTC

yummyfajitas wrote: post #41

jonathankoren wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The thing that makes it unusual is that he's acting in secret and actively soliciting lawsuits he has no interest in, and structures the lawsuits to remove incurable claims because he has a personal vendetta against a media outlet that he doesn't like. If you can't see the difference between working in public against a violent racist organization and a petulant billionaire waiting 7 years to throw a bunch of middle c…

I can clearly see the difference. Aryan nations is on the other team while gawker is on your team. Incidentally, middle class people worked for Aryan Nation also.

Go back to 8chan.

Re: Peter Thiel's dangerous blueprint for perverting philanthropy

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Post by khattam » Sun, May 29, 2016, 5:08 PM UTC

arielm wrote: post #26

gonmf wrote: post #2

Gawker are scum. They disobeyed a court order. They deserved the lawsuit. If you want freedom of speech to out people and attack everyone, expect people with money to use said money to fight back legally. It's their freedom too.

I completely agree and don't get why so many people are so grossly upset. Peter Thiel didn't use his money to bribe anyone, he didn't do anything illegal for Hulk. The court made a decision and Gawker needs to live with the consequences...

>I completely agree and don't get why so many people are so grossly upset.

Because they are regressive libtards. There is no other explanation.

Re: Peter Thiel's dangerous blueprint for perverting philanthropy

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Post by internaut » Sun, May 29, 2016, 7:20 PM UTC

arielm wrote: post #37

Razengan wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Good point. This isn't an argument against your comment but I wonder, at which point does everyone exercising their freedoms become anarchy?

Given that all of this took place legally in a courtroom I don't think anarchy should be an issue now or in the future.

That an assault on the Tribe is always internally perceived as wild unsubstantiated attacks void of reason (i.e. the anarchy) is kind of interesting in of itself.

I mean we all know conservatives and liberals don't understand each other and talk a different language but there's something interesting here to unpack.

Instead of developing a Babelfish (realtime universal language translator) for ordinary languages, imagine if we could slip a little yellow fish into the ears of liberals and conservatives so they fully comprehended what the others were saying to them.

I imagine their heads would explode. But assuming they did not it would be interesting.

Re: Peter Thiel's dangerous blueprint for perverting philanthropy

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Post by internaut » Sun, May 29, 2016, 7:25 PM UTC

jonathankoren wrote: post #38

GunboatDiplomat wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I dunno, I don't see this as any different than when someone gets donations to their legal fund from supporters, or really what the ACLU, EFF, NAACP, etc., do with their legal programs.

It's different because the the organizations you cite do so publically. Thiel is doing it secretly to try to keep his hands clean. That's disturbing. Also the organizations you cite are actually working for the public good, while Thiel is working from a petty personal vendetta.

So a justice system is a public good.

It contains people who are trying to sue. That counts as a personal vendetta, only arbitrated by the courts.

Your juxtaposition of 'private interest' vs 'public interest' needs work. Evidently they can both be aligned.