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Did the Clinton Email Server Have an Internet-Based Printer?
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Re: Did the Clinton Email Server Have an Internet-Based Printer?
#42Earlier quoted context omitted.
Do you have any sources for that? The story I keep hearing is that she had this set up to make FOIA requests more difficult/impossible to fulfil. The really out there stuff is that this was to hide any cash-for-favors exchanges that happened with relation to The Clinton Foundation.
If the latter was the case why not just use the .gov email for state dept. business and the clintonemail.com email for international cash for favors?
I don't want to go too far down the conspiracy theorists' rabbit hole here, so just consider this some alternative reality fiction for a second:
Because it is easier if everything is in one place. Imagine emailing back and forth with somebody, and they accidentally send you an email to the wrong account.
It makes it easier to control everything.
Re: Did the Clinton Email Server Have an Internet-Based Printer?
#43Here's some more details about the state of security of her private server [0]: > Outlook Web Access, or OWA, was running on port 80 without SSL (unencrypted) > Remote Desktop Protocol, port 3389, was exposed through the DMZ (open to anyone on the internet.) This, at the time it was being used, was open to critical vulnerabilities that would allow for remote execution of code. > VNC Remote Desktop, port 5900, was als…
Ah yes, the classic 'shut it down for a few minutes' defense. Stops 'em every time.
"i didnt [sic] want to let them have the chance to"
Can you imagine if this was how Google and Amazon handled security?
Re: Did the Clinton Email Server Have an Internet-Based Printer?
#44Earlier quoted context omitted.
Do you have any sources for that? The story I keep hearing is that she had this set up to make FOIA requests more difficult/impossible to fulfil. The really out there stuff is that this was to hide any cash-for-favors exchanges that happened with relation to The Clinton Foundation.
I can't prove some of the more out-there theories aren't true, but they just don't make sense to me. Given the sheer volume of email she sent from her blackberry (lunch meetings, when to get up, where to go, can you print this, happy birthday, etc) it's pretty clear it's her primary way of communication. So that explains her refusing to take no for an answer from the NSA. If her motivation was to block FOIA requests,…
What makes you think she did all important and confidential communication on paper? Everything I've read goes counter to that.
The administration didn't accept it - a lot of people questioned it and they were told never to speak of it again (read the IG report).
Re: Did the Clinton Email Server Have an Internet-Based Printer?
#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
I just don't believe that Hillary Clinton could not get an email account on a government email server and that somehow having exchange at her house with no controls was the last option she had. I can't think of a scenario where a server at her house is better than almost any other option.
It's not according to the parent that she couldn't get an email account, but rather that she couldn't get a "secure smartphone"
To extrapolate, the assertion is that she could get the secure .gov email account but it would only have been accessible from secured computers. They wouldn't give her a mobile device to access it, so she improvised.
Re: Did the Clinton Email Server Have an Internet-Based Printer?
#46One of the commenters on the Krebs post makes a remarkable point [1]:
"It gets better. Do a dig mx clintonemail.com. You’ll see that the machine’s incoming email was filtered by mxlogic.net, a spam filtering service that works by received all your emails, filtering out the spam, and forwarding you the rest.
This is because the hosting provider, Platte River Network, sold a package along with the hosting. The package included spam filtering and full-disk off-site backup (since then seized by the FBI).
So every email received by Clinton was going through many unsecured places, including a spam filtering queue, a backup appliance and an off-site backup server. Which has already been documented."
http://krebsonsecurity.com/2016/05/did-the-clinton-email-ser...
Re: Did the Clinton Email Server Have an Internet-Based Printer?
#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
No nefarious plot. My understanding is that it went roughly like this. Back in 2009 Clinton requested a secure smartphone from the NSA. It's a custom made device (security by obscurity?). Anyway, the president gets one. As the secretary of state she has to travel a lot, and not being able to do email on the road is highly impractical. So she thought she should get one too. The NSA denied her request for a secure smar…
Do you have any sources for that? The story I keep hearing is that she had this set up to make FOIA requests more difficult/impossible to fulfil. The really out there stuff is that this was to hide any cash-for-favors exchanges that happened with relation to The Clinton Foundation.
Wouldn't both sides need to be outside of FOIA for it to be worthwhile? It seems most of her emails are to staff with .gov email addresses, so surely everything is still recorded, be it in Inbox or Sent?
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#48This story just keeps getting better. There is either a grand nefarious plot, or worse, horrific incompetence. I just can't find a third possibility.
It almost sounds like a farce: Clinton gets indicted or loses face due to incompetence relating to the e-mail server scandal, and in her place is elected The Donald, a man who has committed worse transgressions and has the potential to do even worse things when given power. Frankly, she doesn't sound any more incompetent than even a typical old company c. 2010: think Target, Sony, etc. It would be sad, given that her…
While I care for neither she is the bigger danger because the anti-war left will be silent with her as will many other good activist groups like they are currently silent. A complicit and complacent press and Congress is the reason we have drones killing American's abroad, Manning in jail, Snowden in Russia, Libya in disarray, and a general mess in the Middle East to say the least about increased racial issues in the states. Identity based politics is poison and it shuts down too many groups.
Donald won't catch a break from ANYONE, it will be good to have nearly every group riding the Administrations ass every single day. Let alone he really isn't bound to one party or another and likely will go down the middle and get more things fixed than a party centric politician.
tl;dr the real threat Clinton poses over Trump is that press, Congress, and activist, will be silent against her.
Re: Did the Clinton Email Server Have an Internet-Based Printer?
#49The emails themselves sent from Clinton's server were unencrypted for several months, so unencrypted printing is just more of the same. There's no reasonable question anymore that laws on handling classified data were broken, the only question is will charges actually be brought?
What laws regarding handling classified information were broken? http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-0330-mcmanus-clin...
It depends your perspective and who you ask. The State Department was directed to draft regulations, as is common, as the result of law. The State Department says that Clinton broke those regulations. By extension, it could be argued that she broke the law.
Re: Did the Clinton Email Server Have an Internet-Based Printer?
#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
No nefarious plot. My understanding is that it went roughly like this. Back in 2009 Clinton requested a secure smartphone from the NSA. It's a custom made device (security by obscurity?). Anyway, the president gets one. As the secretary of state she has to travel a lot, and not being able to do email on the road is highly impractical. So she thought she should get one too. The NSA denied her request for a secure smar…
This is the best case version (for her), and what her camp wants people to believe. Its hard to see that it's true though. The IG report is pretty clear that she willfully violated recommendations and warnings about security. I'm inclined to believe accounts like this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9149363 Perhaps she wasn't furtively planning to take over the world, but the evidence points to more than her ju…
So she wanted the NSA to stonewall because that would give her the excuse she needed to set up a private email server? And the rest of the administration played along?
The simpler explanation is that Clinton got really annoyed with the NSA for denying her requests so she disregarded the rules and did her own thing.