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Study finds women are responsible for half of some online abuse on Twitter in UK

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Re: Study finds women are responsible for half of some online abuse on Twitter in UK

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Post by chongli »

Aelinsaar wrote: post #27
nxzero wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is there any research that show being peer reviewed in fact makes a difference? General speaking, I would think research should just speak for itself.

Generally speaking, you think... well that's nice. Meanwhile, in the world of the scientific method, the issue is that everyone needs to know that you didn't just write something down for fun or profit. If your results can't be replicated... thbbpt.

The elephant in the room with science across the board is that replication studies are not an attractive way to pull in grant money. It's a big problem!

Re: Study finds women are responsible for half of some online abuse on Twitter in UK

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Post by jsmthrowaway »

zxcvvcxz wrote: post #30

> When an article makes a politically correct claim: "Yeah I totally feel this is true, this one time [insert anecdote here]" > When an article makes a not-so politically correct claim: "Well it's not peer reviewed / look at the paper that's publishing it / this is the wrong definition / headline is misleading / [insert criticism not related to the claim]"

Given the forum I'm surprised nobody has cited pg's pyramid yet, which is very relevant here.

Re: Study finds women are responsible for half of some online abuse on Twitter in UK

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Post by Joeboy »

wonks wrote: post #24
anoonmoose wrote: post #11

I'd like to know what percentage of online abuse was directed at women. My hunch would have been 50/50 for dealing it out, but I am not so sure the split is even for taking it.

The article does link to one investigation from The Guardian about abusive comments left on articles written by journalists whose genders are known.

I'm rather doubtful about what conclusions can be drawn from that investigation, given that it doesn't really present much clear data. It measures how many comments moderators have deleted, assuming most deleted comments are abusive. Sometimes moderators go rogue and start deleting large numbers of comments that are not abusive but which they don't like for some other reason, leading to more people posting the same comments, leading to more deletions. It's as much a study of moderator behaviour as of commenter behaviour.

Eg. I saw huge numbers of comments deleted for saying a lot of redditors turned against Ellen Pao because of the perception that she sacked Victoria Taylor. Which doesn't seem abusive to me.

Re: Study finds women are responsible for half of some online abuse on Twitter in UK

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Post by unlinker »

vertex-four wrote: post #38
unlinker wrote: post #32

A woman calling another a whore is misogyny? Being against promiscuity is misogyny?

Being against female promiscuity while praising or ignoring male promiscuity is definitely misogyny. Edit: Additionally, being against both in the current society is, while not necessarily misogynist in itself, contributing to a misogynistic society - there's many more people who will speak up to tell a man that the weird-ass person who told them they're bad for being promiscuous is wrong then would tell a woman the…

And how do you detect that with a bot that just skims through tweets? Nonsense.

Re: Study finds women are responsible for half of some online abuse on Twitter in UK

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Post by emblem21 »

beachstartup wrote: post #7
antihero wrote: post #3

Honestly though, equating "online abuse" to some name calling on Twitter is totally disingenuous. What about harassment and rape threats and doxing and swatting?

don't worry, females are probably responsible for half of that other stuff too.

Zoe Quinn was an active member (4 years by her admission) member of Helldump, a community that was dedicated to doxxing.

http://twicsy.com/i/cb4q7h

Re: Study finds women are responsible for half of some online abuse on Twitter in UK

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Post by Joeboy »

zenogais wrote: post #35
gluelogic wrote: post #4

The title should probably reflect the fact that the study focuses specifically on Tweets containing the words "slut" and "whore"

You forgot the word "rape". It was actually "rape", "slut" and "whore"

The article says:

> Women are responsible for half of all misogynistic Tweets

> using the words "slut and whore", a new study has found.

?

Re: Study finds women are responsible for half of some online abuse on Twitter in UK

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Post by unlinker »

zenogais wrote: post #35
gluelogic wrote: post #4

The title should probably reflect the fact that the study focuses specifically on Tweets containing the words "slut" and "whore"

You forgot the word "rape". It was actually "rape", "slut" and "whore"

How can they detect what somebody meant by "rape"? A big chunk of people talk about raping people in videogames every day when they mean killing their online avatars, how do they filter that out?

Re: Study finds women are responsible for half of some online abuse on Twitter in UK

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Post by zxcvvcxz »

jsmthrowaway wrote: post #42
zxcvvcxz wrote: post #30

> When an article makes a politically correct claim: "Yeah I totally feel this is true, this one time [insert anecdote here]" > When an article makes a not-so politically correct claim: "Well it's not peer reviewed / look at the paper that's publishing it / this is the wrong definition / headline is misleading / [insert criticism not related to the claim]"

Given the forum I'm surprised nobody has cited pg's pyramid yet, which is very relevant here.

Everyone should give this a read if they haven't already:

http://paulgraham.com/disagree.html

Re: Study finds women are responsible for half of some online abuse on Twitter in UK

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Post by jshevek »

kohanz wrote: post #43

Why wouldn't they frame the title as "Men and women are equally responsible for misogynistic tweets" instead of singling out women?

The popular myth is that men are responsible for the majority of online abuse. Its more dramatic to phrase the claim in a way that is more explicit in contradicting this myth.
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