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Re: Mahalo's new spam is worse than old

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Post by minsight »

earle wrote: post #7
dschobel wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Companies like Google care about and have responded to populist uprisings like this in the past (especially as it relates to search quality). I imagine that's the actual goal here.

Why would they? This generates revenue for Google. There's no excuse for them not having banning them from day one, like they do every other individual trying to capitalize on the same tactics -- only the sheer capitalization and size that Jason brought to the table allowed him to get away with this at scale. Shame on Google for having double standards, IMHO.

If mahalo were pulled from the rankings, other pages, most likely of better quality, would fill that space.

There is nothing to prevent them from using adsense to monetize the quality of their (non-scraped) content.

Re: Mahalo's new spam is worse than old

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Post by jasonmcalacanis »

shareme wrote: post #31
jasonmcalacanis wrote: post #26

Also, just relax and have a beer at the This Week in Startups party at SXSW.... life is too short to be so angry/upset about nothing! RSVP here www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=342222228076&ref=mf I'm not the worst guy in the world... you'll actually have a good time.

Jason, it be better served if you address the original points rather than side step them..

What's the point of responding if the trolls just vote you down?

see: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1176362

This is becoming sad. Really... some folks need to get a life.

Re: Mahalo's new spam is worse than old

#43

Post by mvandemar »

jasonmcalacanis wrote: post #42
shareme wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Jason, it be better served if you address the original points rather than side step them..

What's the point of responding if the trolls just vote you down? see: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1176362 This is becoming sad. Really... some folks need to get a life.

That is actually quite typical of you, Jason. You respond to well documented and well written articles that cast you and your actions in a negative light by avoiding any discussion whatsoever that actually addresses those facts, by making more stuff up with zero substantiation, and by insulting and lying about the authors of said posts... but anyone who disagrees with you is a troll.

You are a fucking piece of work Jason. Seriously.

@Devilboy - technically speaking it was the noindex tags that disappeared (and which he refuses to address). There was never a nofollow meta tag on the pages.

Re: Mahalo's new spam is worse than old

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Post by Devilboy »

jasonmcalacanis wrote: post #42
shareme wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Jason, it be better served if you address the original points rather than side step them..

What's the point of responding if the trolls just vote you down? see: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1176362 This is becoming sad. Really... some folks need to get a life.

You were downvoted because you didn't address the question at hand (disappearing NOFOLLOW refs) at all!

Re: Mahalo's new spam is worse than old

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Post by Hexstream »

jasonmcalacanis wrote: post #26

Also, just relax and have a beer at the This Week in Startups party at SXSW.... life is too short to be so angry/upset about nothing! RSVP here www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=342222228076&ref=mf I'm not the worst guy in the world... you'll actually have a good time.

"I'm not the worst guy in the world..."

You're setting the bar quite high for yourself, there.

Re: Mahalo's new spam is worse than old

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Post by patio11 »

ashleyw wrote: post #10

Wasn't Mahalo's founding goal to improve search by creating quality pages written by humans, without the spam and low quality content you get with traditional search engines?

The charitable explanation: in the course of growing the business, Mahalo discovered that the tools they had created to support the "quality pages written by humans" were sufficiently powerful that laying off most of the humans and transitioning the rest to a "We pay you with Mahalo Dollars, which are sort of like a real dollar except for the bit about being able to be spent on goods and services" model did not affect the business in the slightest. Accordingly, Mahalo pivoted away from the original vision in the direction that the actual results demonstrated was working.

The uncharitable explanation: "quality pages written by humans" is a bit of PR for Valley consumption (and, ahem, Googleplex consumption) designed to make Mahalo "too high profile to bounce out of the index like a black hat spam site."

Re: Mahalo's new spam is worse than old

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Post by Devilboy »

mvandemar wrote: post #43
jasonmcalacanis wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's the point of responding if the trolls just vote you down? see: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1176362 This is becoming sad. Really... some folks need to get a life.

That is actually quite typical of you, Jason. You respond to well documented and well written articles that cast you and your actions in a negative light by avoiding any discussion whatsoever that actually addresses those facts, by making more stuff up with zero substantiation, and by insulting and lying about the authors of said posts... but anyone who disagrees with you is a troll . You are a fucking piece of work…

Yep sorry that's what I meant

Re: Mahalo's new spam is worse than old

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Post by shareme »

jasonmcalacanis wrote: post #42
shareme wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Jason, it be better served if you address the original points rather than side step them..

What's the point of responding if the trolls just vote you down? see: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1176362 This is becoming sad. Really... some folks need to get a life.

For someone who claims they value debate and conversation you seem to expose the opposite in your posts here..

What are you afraid of sir?

Some honest debate? Get real sir

Your non logic in this area seems to turn people off who were fans of your work in other areas..

Some of us are extremely disappointed in your responses coming from someone, in your own self appointment , who claim to support relevant results from search engine searches.

Re: Mahalo's new spam is worse than old

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Post by pg »

jasonmcalacanis wrote: post #42
shareme wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Jason, it be better served if you address the original points rather than side step them..

What's the point of responding if the trolls just vote you down? see: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1176362 This is becoming sad. Really... some folks need to get a life.

If it makes you feel any better, there are currently 23 upvotes on the comment you linked to, even though its score is -3. So there are a lot of people who are ready to give you a hearing, if you want that.

It's true that users here can sometimes behave like a mob. But there are also a lot, possibly even a majority, who can be convinced by cogent arguments regardless of who they come from. Whereas if you give up and get mad, you lose those as well.

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