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Our “No Asshole” Rule (2014)

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Re: Our “No Asshole” Rule (2014)

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Problem is, most people don't know what a real asshole is. I mean, seriously. I dated so many people who were angry at me because I was honest and wanted to work on the relationship issues and don't just sweet talk everything.

Read this back to yourself a couple of times. How does that attitude come across?

Those ad hominems are the problem here...

Re: Our “No Asshole” Rule (2014)

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I disagree. People intuitively know or quickly learn when others are socially trying to cause them harm. Classifying anyone doing that as an asshole is putting a word on a reflexive assessment even non-judgmental people do and understand. They might choose to take it a different direction in how they respond. They know person was being an asshole in that moment. From there, we could say someone who consistently perfo…

People actually suck at (a) knowing when they are being an asshole, and (b) not interpreting anything that doesn't benefit them as hostile to them. @see Why Everyone (Else) Is a Hypocrite: Evolution and the Modular Mind, by Kurzban. https://www.amazon.com/Why-Everyone-Else-Hypocrite-Evolution...

Re-read my comment. You're addressing a strawman. I said most can pick up when people are repeatedly causing them harm in social situations. There's grey areas but ask random people you'll get a bunch of common answers.

Re: Our “No Asshole” Rule (2014)

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post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I disagree. People intuitively know or quickly learn when others are socially trying to cause them harm. Classifying anyone doing that as an asshole is putting a word on a reflexive assessment even non-judgmental people do and understand. They might choose to take it a different direction in how they respond. They know person was being an asshole in that moment. From there, we could say someone who consistently perfo…

Not always. I try to give people th benefit of the doubt. I think I am a good judge of character (I imagine that most people think the same). There are a number of people who I have initially judged as assholes and I decided they are good people after getting to know them better and likewise there are people who I have liked at first and they turned out to be sneaky and manipulative assholes. (There were far more in…

It can go that way. Certain behavior, though, is undeniably asshole behavior because harm is the only thing that comes from it. Other behavior, if people clearly don't like it, is also asshole behavior if one unnecessarily continues it. This one can get a grey area when conflicts of people's preferences happen. The asshole variety would be the person who knows something bothers someone, feels no need to do it themselves for their own benefit, and does it anyway for satisfaction of irritating other person. There's usually clues, esp non-verbal, that they're doing it too.

Re: Our “No Asshole” Rule (2014)

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If you want to see a place that has a toxic culture because it is filled with, well, arseholes - then you need to have a look at Wikipedia. In fact, if you want to see how bad it can get, then you need to look at something I'm unfortunately responsible for starting - the Wikipedia Administrators' Noticeboard: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_no... Even worse is the incidents section of that n…

>If you have any mental instability whatsoever, I strongly urge you to avoid editing Wikipedia like the plague

Case in point: http://motherboard.vice.com/read/wikipedia-editor-says-sites...

Re: Our “No Asshole” Rule (2014)

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If you want to see a place that has a toxic culture because it is filled with, well, arseholes - then you need to have a look at Wikipedia. In fact, if you want to see how bad it can get, then you need to look at something I'm unfortunately responsible for starting - the Wikipedia Administrators' Noticeboard: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_no... Even worse is the incidents section of that n…

>If you have any mental instability whatsoever, I strongly urge you to avoid editing Wikipedia like the plague Case in point: http://motherboard.vice.com/read/wikipedia-editor-says-sites...

Well, yes. Quite. Trust me, I suspect that nobody on earth is more aware of that article than I am.

Re: Our “No Asshole” Rule (2014)

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post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People actually suck at (a) knowing when they are being an asshole, and (b) not interpreting anything that doesn't benefit them as hostile to them. @see Why Everyone (Else) Is a Hypocrite: Evolution and the Modular Mind, by Kurzban. https://www.amazon.com/Why-Everyone-Else-Hypocrite-Evolution...

Re-read my comment. You're addressing a strawman. I said most can pick up when people are repeatedly causing them harm in social situations. There's grey areas but ask random people you'll get a bunch of common answers.

If you think people only assign the asshole label to someone who does them repeated harm you should try driving in Massachusetts.
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